JEFF4i Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Luther: Discovered the Lion. Ended up being the most impressive human on Caliban, yet, was always dwarfed by Johnson, who he mentored, befriended, and fought amongst. He went heretic and made pacts, but in the end, after wounding his friend, wept realizing his flaws and has been locked up in the Rock since then. His prowess is astounding, nearly as impressive as the Lion's. Lucius: Captain of the 13th Company of the Emperor's Children. Known for his incredible melee prowess even by other Legions. Before the Heresy he's only to have known to lose to one person, Loken, with whom he defeated in a duel at a later date. Who do I pick? I hate to keep picking Dark Angels, but Luther is just that darn impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 i will go with Lucius because this is all supposed to be set prior to the corruption and eventual 'blessing' for the traitors by the Dark Gods. Lucius was an excelent swordsman but Luther was just a very skilled human. he never became a full astartes :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyear Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Same as above, Luther vs Lucius = Unfair fight. Luther was too old to become a full fledged Astartes, probably why he was sent home to Caliban as well. (Don't hurt me you Dark Angels !) And Lucius also has the best swordsmanship record of having never been beaten, well besides when Loken did it. So my vote today goes to Lucius! (the soon to be Eternal after the Heresy :lol:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptar Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 My vote goes to Lucius. Like what the others said, he was a skilled swordsman even before the Chaos Gods blessed the traitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantDaKiller Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Im going for Luther because i think he is the second most cool Dark Angel after Cypher, also being a World Eater player i can't stand the poncy Emperors Children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I hate to say it,(as i dont like him at all :rolleyes:) but Lucius, i mean he was one of the best swordsman in the legion(next to the primarch), and a full astartes, he would kill Luther's butt anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Caesar_ Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Lucius, because Astartes > regular humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Lucius. Best Swordsman and Full Astartes = whoop ass against Great Human Half Astartes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 hate to pick the whiny git, but lucius gets me vote this time. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Lucius ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Lucius wins this hands down. There are very few beings who could defeat him in single combat. Disciple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Lucius, not to many around in the universe who can best him in hth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazard Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Lucius was an awesome swordsman but failed miserably whenever someone used unorthdox tactics: Loken gave him a beatdown and that Iron Hand Termie that snapped his blade and was about to stomp him but hesitated... Luther is very experienced and cunning but would he use such tactics? After all he was a Knight... Lucius wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 that Iron Hand Termie that snapped his blade and was about to stomp him but hesitated... That wasn't Lucius, that was the First Captain, I forget what his name was, but he was the one that was very into art and poetry and whatnot, anyway wasn't Lucius. As for who would win, if we only consider pre-Chaos enhancements then Lucius, if post then Luther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-chaplain Astador Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Lucious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearer of the Word Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 A filthy mortal being victorious over one of the blessed Astartes? I can not tolerate the thought! Lucius will slay the mortal in under a minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Kezef Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Lucius would win. Luther was good, but he is no Commissar Gaunt. That man kills chaos space marines without breaking a sweat.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Lucius would win. Luther was good, but he is no Commissar Gaunt. That man kills chaos space marines without breaking a sweat.. ^_^ you mean gaunt or cain???....both of them seem to do it awesomely! WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I hate Lucius, even being a fan of the Emperor's Children, but gonna have to side with him on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Luther. And its not because I play Dark Angels. The time Luther spent with the Lion would have given him a great sense of tactics, not every beast on Caliban could have been killed by direct force. Sometimes unorthodox methods would have to be used to win the day. Lucius, while a fantastic swordsman, couldn't react well to the unexpected attack, as evidenced by the knuckle sandwich served up by Garviel Loken. Really I'm saying, if Luther knew he couldn't beat a proper Space Marine by conventional tactics, he would have gone for something unexpected. Thats why Luther gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Lucious, this is an unfair fight, A better Match up would have been Luther vs Kor Pheron, Both were not astartes but upgraded humans. Somebody do one for them, Its a fit more fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hialmar Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Luther easily. Lucious was only a legend in his own mind and anyone with any amount of skill and confidence or who was at about this level and wasn't holding back could take him apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Augustus Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Luther he found a primarch and was almost the best human ever that and lucious was an arrogent moron and would so get his butt kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Scythe Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Luther. I am sorry but Lucius just talked himself up. Sure he was the best sword fighter in the legion but what had the legion encountered? Humans with little skills in CC, Aliens and the like. Nothing on an Astartes level really. The one Astarte we read about him going hand to hand with he lost. Now does this mean Luther would win in a straight duel? No probably not but when push came to shove I see Luther doing something to defeat Lucius overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Luther. I am sorry but Lucius just talked himself up. Sure he was the best sword fighter in the legion but what had the legion encountered? Humans with little skills in CC, Aliens and the like. Nothing on an Astartes level really. The one Astarte we read about him going hand to hand with he lost. Now does this mean Luther would win in a straight duel? No probably not but when push came to shove I see Luther doing something to defeat Lucius overall. Which is exactly why I think Lucius will lose. It's not because Luther is necessarily that good, its because Lucius is that stupid. I mean look at out Loken beat him, the dude has his head where the sun don't shine and gets beat because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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