Loken of the 10th Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Luther becuase well he's awesome and Lucius is a whiny little git. And why is everyone saying he is just an upgraded human? There were adults who became astrates, the BT still do this from time to time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1958713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imriel Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 And why is everyone saying he is just an upgraded human? There were adults who became astrates, the BT still do this from time to time Because the process of turning an adult into a marine creates a an inferior marine, they're smaller and have less muscle mass the a true Astartes. The Captain in Decent of Angles is an example of one and, IIRC, Zahariel nearly pities him for it. In Angles Darkness Astelan actually says the Luther wasn't accepted as an Astartes due to being elevated after adulthood and many of the Dark Angles wouldn't have folowed Luther If Astelan hadn't endorsed him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1958771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee265 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Luther, because in the end he may not have won a straight out sword dual, but who said anything about swords being the only weapons. Lucias was a self inlatted astarts with sword dualing skills. luther was a man who compeated to be better than a primarch and didn't whine when he failed. He commited heresey after he felt that man had abandoned him. Luther is my vote Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1958855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus lo volt Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Luther would trounce Lucius! It would be like Hannibal Lector convincing Multiple Miggs to swallow his own tongue. :( :P :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1959675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Of Malfeasance X Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Lucius was one of the only long-term survivors of the world called Murder. If you asked me a month ago who would win, I would have looked at you like you had just asked me if ice came from frozen water. Now that the new IG codex is out, I would have to reconsider. Lucius the eternal can probably not kill a summoned greater daemon in one round of combat. Guardsman Marbo can deep strikes, kill your whole terminator squad with his demo charge (new and improved AP2!), beat a fighting game, have a quickie and still have time left over to knife your greater daemon to death in the very next round. It's appalling. Lucius cannot run and accurately fire a heavy bolter. No space marine can. But Guardsman Harker sure can. I guess my point is that astartes either aren't as powerful as we've been told, or we've all been had by the propaganda. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1959965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazard Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Marbo doesnt have a power weapon and most Deamon Princes have Iron Hide... How good a special character is, is decided by balance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1960035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Christ...not one of those 'ZE GODS! EETS ALL PROPAGANDA AND LIES!' people... Anyways Luther would win this. He could take on a Primarch in combat so he is not that weak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1960214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Christ...not one of those 'ZE GODS! EETS ALL PROPAGANDA AND LIES!' people... Anyways Luther would win this. He could take on a Primarch in combat so he is not that weak. i thought (again, remebering the rules, funny how they get forgotten), that this was a PRE-HERESY fight??? so no uber chaos skills for luther. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1960791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Especially since a post heresy/chaos power acquisition fight would be moot as if you think about it Lucius is just about the most powerful being alive as whoever kills him becomes him, meaning that except for maybe the emperor who could overcome Slaanesh's treachery, even a primarch would "lose" to Lucius in the long run as they would just turn into him. Actually come to think of it that would have been a fun rule, make Lucius a 1 wound model but if he is killed in CC whatever killed him becomes "marked" and can turn into Lucius on a roll of 4+ at the beginning of each ensuing Chaos turn, would be fun but guess it's best not to overthink GW fluff :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1960837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinno Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Not close, Lucius would butcher him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1961071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Especially since a post heresy/chaos power acquisition fight would be moot as if you think about it Lucius is just about the most powerful being alive as whoever kills him becomes him, meaning that except for maybe the emperor who could overcome Slaanesh's treachery, even a primarch would "lose" to Lucius in the long run as they would just turn into him. Actually come to think of it that would have been a fun rule, make Lucius a 1 wound model but if he is killed in CC whatever killed him becomes "marked" and can turn into Lucius on a roll of 4+ at the beginning of each ensuing Chaos turn, would be fun but guess it's best not to overthink GW fluff :P now THAT would be an awesome rule... WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165913-horus-heresy-battle-royale-week-12/page/2/#findComment-1962013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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