Captain Malachi Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 No, I don't mean dropping right in front of a massive squad of firewarriors. (Dumbest thing I ever did...) I've been PMing Antique_Nova the last couple of days and he asked me to make a daemon list to beat his to adress some of his weaknesses. But in the end I decided it might be better if I post a thread here asking you all how you would beat an opposing daemon army with yours. Obviously there are some obvious things, like using bloodletters to kill plaguebearers etc, but I'm looking for more in-depth tactics. So get posting :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord gunthar Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 i play csms but iv been told that the guo has 10 wounds im probly wrong but if im right use him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1974811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 i play csms but iv been told that the guo has 10 wounds im probly wrong but if im right use him Uhh... GUOs have 5 wounds. Ku'gath has 6, and Scabeiathrax (Forge World Gargantuan Creature) has 10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1974996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I would expect a pure Tzeentch list to rule the Daemon VS Daemon game with Slaanesh following closely. Tzeentch has the much feared firepower and Slaanesh has the speed and maneuverability. Khorne falls short because the Letters will never get to charge Netts and Crushers just cant hit anything. Similarily, Netts and Fiends will dice up Thirsters because of rending and the power-weapon is mostly wasted. Nurgle, is slow (and purposeful) and in the face of an army that has access to breath, even pbs dont have the staying power to camp objectives. In my local area there is another player that has a tallyman Nurgle force and i generally always wipe the floor with him whenever we had to play eachother. The GUO can be safely ignored and the only thing remotely scary are his flying nurgle prince, but even winged nurgle DP cant do much against my list because KoS > Nurgle prince, and even more so when he gets shot by 7 bolts of tzeentch and 60 warpfires as he's flying across the board. Fiends also dice them up nicely, Typically I'll deal 3 wounds (or kill it outright) to the prince while it puts 1~2 wounds on my 6 fiends per turn of combat, then i bounce away and hit something else. Breath of chaos is sensational in getting rid of plague bearers and my low model count means that the tally never really goes up even if he does manage to kill offf a unit or 2. But i guess that's an unfair assessment, a slow durable army vesus a fast and hard hitting army whose primary attack negates their primary defense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1975077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Daemons can't kill tanks, so Grinders work well. Fiends are always nice, Nurgle DPs mess up Daemonzilla, Horrors can put out lots of shots, Nurglings put out lots of attacks and don't die. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1975102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 seconded on nuglings being good roadblock daemon units. Kairos is really, really good versus daemons (well everything actually) as the 3+ rerollable save can just bounce almost everything. Horrors and a bloodthirster with aforementioned Kairos are also really good. A rerollable 4+ is almost as good as a rerollable 3+, and the horrors can shoot while the bloodthirster can maim grinders and other units, wounding on a 2+ without needing poison. Soulgrinders are really, really good versus most daemons. The expensive monstrous creatures (above bloodthirster) tend to deal with grinders pretty well, but with a cost of only 160 with phlem, grinders definately arnt bad even versus a pure daemonzilla list if you force the enemy to charge into cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1975490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 erm i dont think there answering your thread or question yet....lol for those of you who want to know what he is SPECIFICALLY asking you to do. its to beat this army list with another daemon list ( 2 hq units ) 4x Herald of Tzeenech 4x chariot 4x breath of chaos or Bolt Of Tzeentch 4x mastery of sorcery 4x we are legion 30x bloodletter ( split into 3 squads of 10 each ) 1x Chaos icon 1x Instrument of chaos 3x deamon prince 3x Mark Of Tzeentch 3x Bolt Of Tzeentch 3x deamonic gaze 3x breath of chaos thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1977734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Fiends and Horrors. Smack his fast units around, pump the Bletters full of warpfire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167542-how-to-kill-ourselves/#findComment-1977998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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