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Pre heresy Imperial Fist Army.


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Nice work mate, love the battle damage and colour scheme!

 

Comment about the 'pre-heresy' theme you're going for, however - the Sergent in the middle of the picture below appears to be wearing Mark 8 armour haha... he's a little ahead of his time!! (10,000 years lol)

 

Apart from that tiny hiccup I love it, keep up the good work :P

 

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/TacticalSquad2.jpg

Skringly: At the moment on the test Marines I was just doing it until it looks right. I'm going to do a couple more test figures until I am really happy with them and then I will do a proper painting guide for you all.

 

Arcturus008: Thanks for the comment. The Sergent I was basing off the image of the Crusade era Imperial Fist which you can see here; http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Fist

I also added some stud's to his helmet to give a MK5 heresy armour feel although it isn't as MK5 as the other ones you can see in the army. It could also be a MK7 helmet as they would have had those near the end of the heresy.

 

Thanks.

Arcturus008, Retraction accepted. Thanks :D

 

Time for a update and very small update....

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/imperialFistCommanderFistSkirt.jpg

 

I added some tiny fist's to the bottom of the tabbard instead of the "U" that they had before. Hopefully you like them and you all actually think that they look like fist's.

 

Thanks.

Update time again.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/ImperialFistArmy1stCoat.jpg

 

I was meant to be playing a game tonight but the shop was shut so instead I did some painting. The commander is nearly finished now and I will be making a start on the jump pack soon.

 

Thanks

It's not a real update as such but I've decided on my full 3000 point Apocolypse army list;

 

HQ

 

Chapter Master.

???????????

 

4 Honour Guard.

Chapter Champion with Thunder hammer.

Chapter Banner.

 

Chaplain.

Jump Pack.

Plasma Pistol.

Melta Bombs.

 

Landraider.

 

Elites.

 

Dreadnought.

Autocannon.

 

5 Terminators.

Assault cannon.

 

 

Troops

 

Tactical Squad 1.

Power Fist.

Heavy Bolter.

Flamer.

 

Tactical Squad 2.

Power Sword.

Heavy Plasma.

Plasma.

 

Tactical Squad 3.

Power Fist.

Lascannon.

Plasma.

 

Fast Attack.

10 Assault Marines.

Power Weapon.

 

5 Bikes.

Power Sword.

2x Flamers.

 

3 Landspeeders.

3x Heavy bolters.

2x Multi Meltas.

1x Heavy Flamer.

 

Heavy Support.

 

Vindicator.

Siege shield.

 

Predator.

Autocannons.

Heavy Bolters.

Dozer Blade.

 

Predator.

Autocannons.

Heavy Bolters.

Dozer Blade.

 

Legendary Unit's

Shadow Sword.

 

Total

2980

 

That leaves me 20 points spare to arm the Chapter Master. I can always juggle some point around from other units as well.

 

The Marine commander who was my Rogal Dorn substitute will now be the Chapter Champion leaving me some room to make.... Dorn! ;)

 

I've already decided what models I will be using for Dorn's honour guard and will be ordering them this week, as for Dorn himself I am thinking of using Marneus Calgar in Terminator armour as a base.

 

So how does that army sound to you all? Plenty of scope for Pre Heresy units and enough firepower to really fit the Imperial Fist's.

 

Thanks again.

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Arcturus008: Thanks for the comment. The Sergent I was basing off the image of the Crusade era Imperial Fist which you can see here; http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Fist

I also added some stud's to his helmet to give a MK5 heresy armour feel although it isn't as MK5 as the other ones you can see in the army. It could also be a MK7 helmet as they would have had those near the end of the heresy.

 

Thanks.

 

There is some debate as to whether or not that picture is labeled correctly.

 

The armor looks lot closer to MKVIII than anything pre-heresy. In particular, the helmet is much more 'modern' looking and the 'wrist guards' are very much a hallmark of the MKVIII armor design.

 

Either way though, your army looks great!

These are great - well done :P

 

I love the recipe you've made for the yellow. Normally I don't like IF colours, but you've swayed me over. I plan on painting up some IFs at some point, to add to my Crimson Fists and my friends Black Templars to create "The Sons Of Dorn" for apocalypse, and I'll most likely be stealing your technique.

If I were you, I'd consider making Dorn as a true scale marine, that way he'll instantly stand out as a primarch as opposed to a standard captain/chapter master.

 

The only critisism I have to offer is the inclusion of a Vindicator, as you're making a pre-heresy force, and I'm pretty sure that the Vindicator was invented during the siege of Terra, thus is not pre-heresy.

 

Other than that, well done! I'll be watching this thread closely.

 

 

 

Araziel

Thanks Guyz.

 

Araziel.

 

That would look great in a game together.

 

For Dorn I was considering using Calgar in Terminator as a base to start with.

 

I know the title says Pre Heresy but anytime upto the siege iswhat the army is built around.

 

Updates.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/ArmorWashed.jpg

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DreadnoughtWashed.jpg

 

I have done the wash on armoured section of the army. The dreadnought photo is a little too dark he is the same colour as the tanks.

 

I'm working on a couple more Test models aswell as doing the wash on the Marine squads. I found a great technique for doing battle damage so I'm going to give that a go.

 

Thanks.

Yeah, thats the plan - we're each having 8k points.. and I'm planning for the IF part to be comprised entirely of Terminators :)

 

Ahh, fair enough then. I retract the Vindicator statement.. still, everythings looking great :P Papa smurf aye? That could work. What will you be arming him with?

 

 

Araziel

Araziel. I'm guessing Lysander will lead that part of the army then.

 

I'm thinking of arming him with Lysanders Thunder hammer (Fist of Dorn) and perhaps a power sword or a stormbolter (Dorns Arrow) I've got the model just got to have a good look and decide really.

 

 

Update time.

 

My orders came through.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/NewAdditions.jpg

 

So with the bits sitting in my bits box I have nearly everything I need for the army. I just need to get my hands on a box of Assault Terminators to go with the Land Raider.

 

I have decided I will be taking the army upto around 3000 points so my Orks (which I nearly have everything for aswell) and Fists will eventually match up.

 

I have just a few more tactical Marines to finish washing and then I will get a photo up of those for you.

 

Thanks again guyz.

I'm not sure I know which one your talking about if it isnt a Gamesworkshop head it will be one of the Steam Knight Helmets from Maxmini.

 

Updates.

 

I've done the wash on the Assault Marines.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/AssaultSquadWash.jpg

 

Thanks.

Thanks guys.

 

I will be going for the Shadowsword and I will be magnetising the lascannons so I can choose between them and targeters.

 

Update.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/TacticalSquad1Wash.jpg

 

I've done the wash on the first tactical squad.

 

Thanks.

It's a little late for a lot of these guys now, but you will find that applying a coat of red under the yellow will make it far nicer in tone, brighter even than over white (although it will require more coats).

 

http://xs841.xs.to/xs841/09294/losorkos149.png

 

these half-finished orc boys (only ones i had on me) show a pretty easy difference between a lot of yellows, including ones on the armor built up from red (leaving even some in the darks - they still read as lines rather than reds, but they add a lot of oomph). In particular take a peek at the top center image, you have an example of yellow cloth (built up traditionally) against yellow armor (built up from red).

 

Now, i do use a lot of coats on my guys (armor goes blood red, golden yellow, sunburst yellow, sunburst yellow+white, white) but you could get away with fewer. not to mention you could just drybrush the whole model in those tones - your guys in particular would see benefit in that because of the commonly closed arms - that whole inner portion that brush won't reach would be tastefully and logically enlivened.

 

Probably at this point sometihng to consider for the future though, it seems you've washed maybe 20 guys already.

The company Champion.

 

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/shaw3029/Pre%20heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/Companychampionfinished.jpg

 

Is now finished

 

 

Thanks Skringly.

 

 

Awesome mini, i cant figure out what model it is... what did you use to make him?

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