Cannon-Fodder Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hi ther, My brother's started playing CSM and I played him yesterday - he took a DP with bolt of change psychic power. I read the rules in his codex and it said words to the effect of "may use in the shooting phase instead of another ranged weapon...." or something like that. IIRC the DP doesn't come with any ranged weapons and can't take weapon upgrades. Does this mean that a psychic power that replaces a ranged weapon attack is not possible on a DP? or can you just use it in the shooting phase regardless? cheers, CF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 As far as I understand, it just means that that IS his shooting phase. It's not instead of shooting a gun if he doesn't have a gun. Think of it as a bolt of lightening/warp power/flame/whatever comes from his sword/eyes/butt/man-thinking-apparatus (enter your own word here) in attempt to take out as many of your little fella's as possible. Hope that helps. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Yes you can shoot it with a Prince. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 That part is there to make it clear that it can't be used in addition to any other shooting attacks, like a boltgun/bolt pistol for a Sorcerer, or other shooting Psychic Powers like Doombolt. After all, can't shoot twice in the shooting phase. Unless you're a Monstrous Creature, which the Daemon Prince is which makes my previous point moot... Anyway, just consider it to be there for the Sorcerer to prevent him from shooting more than once in the shooting phase. TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 So a DP with MoT could shoot Doombolt and Bolt of Change? Nice... Could a DP that has psychic powers have a Familiar? Or would that be a little silly due to big feet + small warp creature = messy shoes? Or is that another oversite of this Codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Worth keeping in mind, Daemon Princes can fire off two shooting weapons per turn as they're Monstrous Creatures, but they can't fire off the same shooting psychic power in the same turn twice, as is the norm for all shooting attacks... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Could a DP that has psychic powers have a Familiar? taking a familiar is not an option for a DP so no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 See, I think that's another dumb rule... surely they are one of the many gifts available to someone with pyschic powers on the way to Daemonhood... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 That's kinda why the Chaos Daemons Daemon Prince is superior I think. They might be more expensive, but they can have up to 3 shooting attacks and use them all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2022406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 That's kinda why the Chaos Daemons Daemon Prince is superior I think. They might be more expensive, but they can have up to 3 shooting attacks and use them all. Indeed, but only through Gift of Chaos, which technically isn't a shooting attack :D TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2023983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 No, don't even need Gift of Chaos (Boon of Mutation). Daemonic Gaze (Stronger, longer range Doombolt), Breath of Chaos (Winds of Chaos) and Bolt of Change (Bolt of Tzeentch). And to use it all, all you gotta buy is Master of Sorcery upgrade as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2024061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Ack, right you are, I keep forgetting about the Codex: Daemons version of the Daemon Prince :P TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2024443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 See, I think that's another dumb rule... surely they are one of the many gifts available to someone with pyschic powers on the way to Daemonhood... I want to 2nd this 100% Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2026735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon-Fodder Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 ta very. using two psychic attacks is an interesting idea - I'll suggest it to him as long as he doesn't use it against me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/171138-daemon-prine-with-bolt-of-change/#findComment-2027170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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