Sons of Horus Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I need some clarification on the number of lightning claws Horus used. some pictures show him with 2 while others only show him with 1. I know abaddon took the weapon and so he has 1 but were there really 2 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chaplain Darius Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Sometimes he's depicted as having two, until about 3rd edition, when he was shown with a single claw (the TALON singular the one with the integral bolter) and a mace or other wicked looking weapon. I believe this is to make him into a mirror image of his father the Emperor, who wielded a sword and power claw. In the current incarnation of the fluff, he only had one claw, the one Abbadon took after his death. If you want to find a lot of chaos fluff, find a copy of the 3rd Edition chaos codex. Or the GOOD chaos codex depending on who you talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrum proeliator Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 In the Collected Visions book he is depicted as having a single power claw and a warhammer. I have seen various depictions of Horus with two power claws, and I think, pre heresy he used a sword and some kind of ranged weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travh20 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 in Horus Rising he had a storm bolter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 As far as models used in GW publications representing him - 2 lightning claws (in the 2nd ed diorama of Horus vs The Emperor). Forget who did the modelling... It was mostly kitbashed by the Eavy metal team (or similar - might have been a Perry???). Abbadon took one because that was all he had time for (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Mike McVey, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 thanks for the help brothers would anyone happen to have a link or picture of the diorama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korloth Darkwolf Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is his site. The diorama is under the Mike Mcvey Gallery. Called "Emperor and Horus" Mike Mcvey Studio Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Pretty sure that the actual Talon is a unique item. Since it's a lightning claw with a combi-bolter integrated on top of it. Of course it's still possible for Horus to have used a pair of regular lightning claws / power sword and stormbolter / something else prior to being given the Talon. TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Retconned to there only being one Talon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcL63 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Mike McVey, I think. Indeed: Mike McVey, the first god of the Warhammer hobby. His advice on converting space marines in the 1994 Citadel Miniatures Modelling Guide set me on the road to being as big a fan of chopping and swapping space marine parts as the most deranged painboy scavenging the battlefield. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcL63 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 This is his site. The diorama is under the Mike Mcvey Gallery. Called "Emperor and Horus" Mike Mcvey Studio Link Thanks for that Korloth Darkwolf. I'd heard about this, but hadn't seen it yet. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiare5681 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Sure he had 2 in Fulgrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Librarian Hesperos Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I remember reading in an article by GW that power claws are retractable, so maybe 2 claws a ranged and possibly another weapon like a mace or sword. For every scenario. He was the warmaster, very well equipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blckbuster Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 the most likely explanation would be that he has his custom talon with the built-in early prototype stormbolter, and whatever else he felt he needed at the time, be it another claw or anything else, he would have been the single person with the greatest access to wargear in the imperium and later of the gifts of the chaos gods, so use whatever you wish for your own purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxe Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 As far as models used in GW publications representing him - 2 lightning claws (in the 2nd ed diorama of Horus vs The Emperor). Forget who did the modelling... It was mostly kitbashed by the Eavy metal team (or similar - might have been a Perry???). Abbadon took one because that was all he had time for (I think). The diorama was made by Mike Mcvey. I remenber it beeing presented in White Dwarf. There was even a "making of"-article. Edit: should have read the complete thread befor posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Subtle Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 i always thought it was a lightening claw with a combined storm bolter, and his other hand has a power mace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipimus Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I would agree with Brother librarian hesperos and blckbuster in that Horus is the warmster so wouldnt limit himself to having a single wargear choice and would kit himself out depending on how or who he was going to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKits Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 to be honest i always thought there was only 1 talon of Horus. as in just about every picturei have seen of him and i have seen 3 different renditions of Horus including one in an old Codex where he had a Combi-bolter/storm bolter and a freaking Chainfist! don't know how to explain it but meh *shrugs* I do agree with the idea that he most likely had access to just about any weapon he would want and could have it attached to his armor. I imagine the Talon is the same if Horus' terminator Armor was a custom made job by the adepts of Mars (traitor ones) it seems possible that the Talon was also a gift be it attached or seperate is up to the reader until stated otherwise. and on the matter of him having a storm bolter or a combi :D if you think about it he had both in gaming rules in modern rule sense CSM have combi bolters but back back in the day like 2nd edition i think it was maybe some of 3rd CSM used to have Storm bolters too :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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