Raven Angel Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Grey Knights are a SECOND founding CHAPTER, not a legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Actually that would be an interesting line. If you think about it, the Grey Knights have no idea where their geneseed comes from. What if the geneseed used for the Grey Knights came from Loken, Garro, and other members of Traitor Legions who stayed loyal and survived? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTheLion Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 ye that actualy kinda makes sense :lol: Instead of thinking Nemesis in terms of enemies we cd think of it in what it exactly means :P Nemesis Weapons USed By the Grey Knights! A Heresy Inquisition book :P sounds fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 the Inquisition wasn't around during the Heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 the Inquisition wasn't around during the Heresy No, but... At the end of Flight of the Eisenstein it seems pretty obvious that they are talking about forming the Inquisition when they talk about "needing inquisitive minds." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 According to the collected visions there where 8 Astartes in the founding of the inquisition and they where all from the same legion, the name of which is not mentioned, and they where all psykers. Loken and Garro do not fit that bill and will not until they are said to have had psyker powers they refused to use in a book. I have my own idea about which legion they hail from but discusing that here would I think be off topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Nemesis; "A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent." Makes me think Night Lords. But that's just me. ;) TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2080880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketrollrebel Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Night Lords would be great! I do sincerely hope that its not about heresy era blood angels tho. I've loved the stuff that Swallow has written for the HH series but when it comes to the Blood Angels he seems to seriously drop the ball (no pun intended) and make me a sad sad panda. woo 200th post! another beer to celebrate! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2081504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Building on the 'Nemesis' idea, maybe Iron Hands vs Emperors Children in the Horus Heresy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2081954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dràyhèn Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Fulgrim covered up that bit quite well already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2081975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Various articles in WD and stories in codexes hint at the fact that the Grey Knights were created in secret by the Emperor during the Great Crusade... However, I don't think Nemesis would be about them. I'm liking the Emperor/Chaos gods angle, that would be a good book in my opinion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 A book about the life of the Emperor hm you think the will give him a name? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 According to the collected visions there where 8 Astartes in the founding of the inquisition and they where all from the same legion, the name of which is not mentioned, and they where all psykers. Loken and Garro do not fit that bill and will not until they are said to have had psyker powers they refused to use in a book. I have my own idea about which legion they hail from but discusing that here would I think be off topic. You are wrong about the 8 Astartes being in the same Legion. The quote ..... "'Sire, these others are known to you. Each of them is a Space Marine. They have cast aside their allegiance to Primarch and Legion who have sided with Horus and pledged themselves anew to you, their Emperor and father. I have chosen these eight since allied to their unflinching loyalty, they are each blessed with paranormal skills, kept dormant in respect of your previous commands. However these skills are most apt in combating the horrors that have recently emerged from the warp and I know that they will be needed in the coming years.' 'Malcador you have judged well, these eight Space Marines do indeed have a vital role to play in the future of the Imperium, though veiled in secrecy will they be.' " ....leads me to think they are form at least a couple different Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 And it says psychic abilities kept dormant as well. Not to mention all are from Traitor Legions. Nothing saying Loken and others aren't latent psykers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTheLion Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Maybe thats "How" loken surived with some friends, by making some sort of bubble ;) i mean, having read the 3 1st books i can pick out some scenes where the word "psychic" comes to mind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Maybe thats "How" loken surived with some friends, by making some sort of bubble ;) i mean, having read the 3 1st books i can pick out some scenes where the word "psychic" comes to mind Oh? do tell. Would be nice for some one other then me to point theses out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nemesis; "A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent." Makes me think Night Lords. But that's just me. :) TDA Someones been watching Snatch, I see! Seriously though, I'd love for it to be Night Lords. We'll just have to wait and see though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Khammon Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 This book will be on the Adeptus Custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 They have cast aside their allegiance to Primarch and Legion who have sided with Horus and pledged themselves anew to you, their Emperor and father. The stament is in the singular. If they were from multiple Legions Malcador would have used the plural. After all its from a book that was edited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 They have cast aside their allegiance to Primarch and Legion who have sided with Horus and pledged themselves anew to you, their Emperor and father. The stament is in the singular. If they were from multiple Legions Malcador would have used the plural. After all its from a book that was edited. Actually, it makes grammatical sense for them to be talking about multiple Legions and Primarchs, after all each Marine only cast aside their allegiance to one of each. So each Marine cast aside allegiance to Primarch and Legion. To say Legions there implies that each rebelled against multiple Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2082623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 There are days when I wish english was less ambigous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2083229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Don't we all... stupid incongruous language... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2083616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If it's not about events post-Eisenstein, I'm not sure how it can be about the Grey Knights, the nascent Inquisition, etc. There are two books coming up that are dedicated to the fall of Prospero, so I don't think it's either Space Wolf or Thousand Son-related. Corax's bunch might be covered by "Raven's Flight", and audio book that's also listed as "coming soon". Iron Warriors-Imperial Fists would certainly fit the title, as would Night Lords-Imperial Fists... but where the first is concerned, their Legions' real signature fight won't happen for a while, and where the latter are concerned, it's more about the Primarchs and less about the Legions. I can't guess who it will be about. As much as I want to see the Dark Angels storyline continue, I hope this isn't it (even though the title fits), since I would like to see novels about some of the other Legions first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2084114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 DA's story is pretty much done till after the battle of Terra. Wasn't there a planet named Nemisis in the Gothic Sector? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2084305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTheLion Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If it's not about events post-Eisenstein, I'm not sure how it can be about the Grey Knights, the nascent Inquisition, etc. There are two books coming up that are dedicated to the fall of Prospero, so I don't think it's either Space Wolf or Thousand Son-related. Corax's bunch might be covered by "Raven's Flight", and audio book that's also listed as "coming soon". Iron Warriors-Imperial Fists would certainly fit the title, as would Night Lords-Imperial Fists... but where the first is concerned, their Legions' real signature fight won't happen for a while, and where the latter are concerned, it's more about the Primarchs and less about the Legions. I can't guess who it will be about. As much as I want to see the Dark Angels storyline continue, I hope this isn't it (even though the title fits), since I would like to see novels about some of the other Legions first. Actualy you couldnt be more wrong (no offence intended) . The DA story only gets more fiesty! as we know the Lions story finishes a bit after the Einstein Reachers the Fists, hence we dont really know what happens to him later, or how Lion reacts when Perturabo turns Traitor. Not to mention the whole Ordeal with the Lion and the Wolf beeing on a galactic road trip and the wolf wanting to stop for beers n h**s and the lion wanting to go to daddy! I can already think of some amazign scenarion there focusing on the relationships between 2 legendary Beeings such as Primarchs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/2/#findComment-2084385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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