Child-of-the-Emperor Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If it's not about events post-Eisenstein, I'm not sure how it can be about the Grey Knights, the nascent Inquisition, etc. There are two books coming up that are dedicated to the fall of Prospero, so I don't think it's either Space Wolf or Thousand Son-related. Corax's bunch might be covered by "Raven's Flight", and audio book that's also listed as "coming soon". Iron Warriors-Imperial Fists would certainly fit the title, as would Night Lords-Imperial Fists... but where the first is concerned, their Legions' real signature fight won't happen for a while, and where the latter are concerned, it's more about the Primarchs and less about the Legions. I can't guess who it will be about. As much as I want to see the Dark Angels storyline continue, I hope this isn't it (even though the title fits), since I would like to see novels about some of the other Legions first. Actualy you couldnt be more wrong (no offence intended) . The DA story only gets more fiesty! as we know the Lions story finishes a bit after the Einstein Reachers the Fists, hence we dont really know what happens to him later, or how Lion reacts when Perturabo turns Traitor. Not to mention the whole Ordeal with the Lion and the Wolf beeing on a galactic road trip and the wolf wanting to stop for beers n h**s and the lion wanting to go to daddy! I can already think of some amazign scenarion there focusing on the relationships between 2 legendary Beeings such as Primarchs! Yea but we've had 2 books on the Dark Angels already, I doubt Nemesis will be about the Dark Angels, because then they would have to release a 4th DA book regarding the final events on Caliban (which obviously Nemesis isnt about!) From Dan Abnett talking on the BL forums we know its not about the Sisters of Silence, The Blood Angels (Signus Cluster), the Iron Cage incident, or the Nemesis Chapter. Logically speaking its also not about Russ/Magnus as there having 2 books early next year, or the Dark Angels for the above reasons. Im starting to think its not going to based on a legion. Maybe the Emperor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2084596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Actualy you couldnt be more wrong (no offence intended) . The DA story only gets more fiesty! as we know the Lions story finishes a bit after the Einstein Reachers the Fists, hence we dont really know what happens to him later, or how Lion reacts when Perturabo turns Traitor. Not to mention the whole Ordeal with the Lion and the Wolf beeing on a galactic road trip and the wolf wanting to stop for beers n h**s and the lion wanting to go to daddy! I can already think of some amazign scenarion there focusing on the relationships between 2 legendary Beeings such as Primarchs! I'm well aware of the above; I simply hope other Legions get their books in first. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2084798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 According to the collected visions there where 8 Astartes in the founding of the inquisition and they where all from the same legion, the name of which is not mentioned, and they where all psykers. Loken and Garro do not fit that bill and will not until they are said to have had psyker powers they refused to use in a book. I have my own idea about which legion they hail from but discusing that here would I think be off topic. There are days when I wish english was less ambigous. Well now can you see that maybe Garro and Loken might have been among the 8? or do we need to talk more about psyker powers? I think psyker powers is what allowed the 10th Company to be the ones to get to the "Emperor" first in Horus Rising. I think psyker powers is what Loken used to see the Remote Sentry Gun that was killing his men and to "see" the "Invisibles" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2085696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 ... No, the book makes specific mention that Loken turns his visor settings onto "black and white", and looks for the blurs. He uses technology, not psychic powers. And as for the sentry gun, how is looking for the pile of shells "psychic"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2085728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I can't see that untill it is stated they are psykers. No doubt if they both survive the events to come they would make excelent members of the Inquisition but at this time their skill set is incompatable with becoming a gray knight. This however can change. A month ago I would have sworn Loken dead so until its stone its a possiblity BUT possibilities do not make facts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2085814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Doesnt loken have a vision in one of the books? Sounds like psyker stuff to me ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2086117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
As7_k Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Doesnt loken have a vision in one of the books? Sounds like psyker stuff to me :P During the scene with the Fists in Horus Rising? I thought it was more referred to as a sense of dread or something of that nature. Or even an idea to horrible to think about. I can't find my copy but if I am right it doesn't sound like psyker ability, just irony veiled as fear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2086809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child-of-the-Emperor Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I've just finished reading the first 3 HH books for the third time! & there is no mention at all of Loken possessing Psychic powers, it isn't even implied. Now if they wanted Loken to become a Grey Knight they would have left subtle hints throughout the series so far as to make Loken seem Psychic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2088052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Tates Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 When was the Deathwatch created? Could they be the founding? The best marines from there chapters? Would make sense. But i got a feeling someone's going to shoot me down and tell me they were created after the Heresy. Just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2088127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Couldn't be created until atleast after the Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2088153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I don't know there as the Death Watch is not a standing army like the Legions or the later Chapters they could have come before, but it wouldn't mater really. Death Watch Marines are only seconded temperaorly from their parent combat forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2088594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It has been metioned a few times they plan on making a Heresy book from a xenos perspective. This could be that book about mankinds Nemisis, the Xenos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2090125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If you think about it with that prospective and title it would be the Nemisis of the Xenos which is mankind. Though there is another idea which literally just poped up in my head. Several astronimers over the years have noted that Binery starsystems are by far more common in our Galaxy then single stars. many theroise that Sol has a long period very dim dwarf star as a binery partner and more often then not reffer to this star by the name of Nemisis. While their is no evidence to support this a HH book wouldn't really need any. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2090336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar97 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I don't have a clue what nemesis is about, but I am looking forward to it. However I want to clarify something. One, Loken was not one of the marines that was presented to the emperor by malcador as he was at Istvaan III at the time and nothing has been written that he somehow made it off the planet. Garro on the other had was among the marines that were presented to the emperor by malcador this is confirmed in both flight of the eisenstein and in the horus heresy collected visions. Just my two cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2095546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Brushes Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Well with a name like Nemesis its obviously going to be about a well-known starship captain confronting his evil clone, ending the death of a well-loved android... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2168892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Loken will be exerting psychic powers from the bucket he is now residing in after Galaxy in Flames. I have heard that Nemesis is about the various assassin groups active during the Heresy - loyalists ones trying to get to Horus, traitor ones trying to kill the Emperor, and the tale of their conflict. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2168963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 http://www.facebook.com/theblacklibrary#/p...;id=21664437956 You may need to be logged into Facebook to see this. If the artwork is genuine then I'd say it's pretty obvious who it concerns. JG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2169257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brotherAkkyshan Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Wow! Great cover... only problem I have is the two words written above NEMESIS, those two words being James and Swallow! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2169312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 *guessing* It's about two warring Assassins, set during the HH. One on each side. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2169380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 *guessing* It's about two warring Assassins, set during the HH. One on each side. Don't ignore me, just because I am little :( *cry* I have heard that Nemesis is about the various assassin groups active during the Heresy - loyalists ones trying to get to Horus, traitor ones trying to kill the Emperor, and the tale of their conflict. I've been told that from someone who's spoken to someone at BL about it, so it should be dead on the money! I quite like James Swallow's stuff, Flight of the Eisenstein was a great book! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2169805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frijj Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 the book is about assassins. Not sure on the exact content of story line. If anyone wants confirmation on this just look on the black library site. Or go onto facebook and look at their profile there. Its got a picture of an assassin on there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2170509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 hmm. M'shen before he/she/it got the asignment to kill Curze maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2171343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Well if this doesn't feature too much power armor it may be reasonably good. I'm not a fan of how Swallow has portrayed the Astartes (pre- or post- Heresy for that matter) so hopefully he does a better job with the assassins and other human characters. Love the cover, so here's fingers crossed to a book that can do it justice! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2172152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Its definetely assassins, they just released the cover art xxx Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2235342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Its definetely assassins, they just released the cover art xxxIt was released in October, and the link was posted in this thread on Oct 30 2009, 09:28 AM. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175672-hh-nemesis/page/3/#findComment-2235357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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