Spacefrisian Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I was wondering what you guys think about using Cypher in a Chaos army (for frindly games). I have the Model and the latest official rules (although a little bit old and rusty rules that is) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 As long as you and your opponent agree before the game anything goes really. Most people will be fine with it, he's certainly weaker than another daemon prince so in most people's eye's you'll just be penalizing yourself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I was wondering what you guys think about using Cypher in a Chaos army (for frindly games). I have the Model and the latest official rules (although a little bit old and rusty rules that is) Tempus fugitives have made some pretty cool rules for him that make him dang hard... they gave him a C'tan phase knife... he still has his pistols and can fire both in a turn and I think they count as being assault 2 :lol: if you want to checkit out go to the downloads section in their site and get the lost and the damned mini-dex. They are play tested as well because they use these rules in events :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragash Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Or use him as a Chaos Lord of Tzeentch with a Deathscreamer. It's not perfect, but it's along the right lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 I would only use him with the rules official provided for him. Not some dang hard rules with Phase sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelKing Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 don't forget, If you are using the rules I'm thinking of (from an old White Dwarf), he counts as an elite. So you can still take 2 HQ units. He would just need a invul to be worth the points IMO. Right now, he's more fluffy than effective :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I would only use him with the rules official provided for him. Not some dang hard rules with Phase sword. Its not a sword its a knife ;P and I have no idea how or where he got it but it would explain how he finds it easy to escape... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2077753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 15, 2009 Author Share Posted August 15, 2009 I guess he sticks the Plasmapistol in someones mouth and fires of a couple of shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2080328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just use Cypher with a plasma pistol and use the other pistol as a CCW, like it says in the main rulebook that pistols count as CCWs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlâdvar The Destroyer Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 you could always just make him an Aspiring Champion or chaos lord with a power sword/Daemon Sword in 1 hand & either a plasma pistol or bolt pistol in the other hand, plus a holster for a "second pistol" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 How about counts-as Sorceror with Doombolt? The psychic power represents his guns (Heresy ! : and the Force Weapon the 'Lion Sword'?). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelKing Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How about counts-as Sorceror with Doombolt?The psychic power represents his guns (Heresy ! : and the Force Weapon the 'Lion Sword'?). You know what? That's a great idea! Plus Mark of Slaanesh for that extra initiative that the old rules had him at. Sounds great! I'll try it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 He never draws the Lion Sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 He never draws the Lion Sword. Yup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 He uses his pistols in close combat so his bolt pistol acts as an additional CCW and his plasma pistol acts as a power weapon.... I guess you could use the force weapon as boom headshot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 He never draws the Lion Sword. Yup. Hence the word 'heresy'. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How about a warptime sorc with a plasma pistol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hence the word 'heresy'. ;) Not just any heresy.... fluff heresy. :P :cuss ;) ;) EDIT: Figures my 1000th post should be admonishing fluff heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175782-using-cypher/#findComment-2083824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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