Redbaron997 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 What do you loose your DPs to more? A bunch of lil attacks (gaunts, basic CC, Bolter fire) that would make the MON better? Or a few big attacks (MLs, Lascannons, PFs) that would make MOT better? This would be for a standard Winged Warptime prince. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I havn't found that i consistently lose it to any specific weapon type. Somtimes it gets sniped by heavy stuff, sometimes whittled down. Thats why i would go with no mark and just keep it cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 it really depends. if you have the points though go for MoT since you can get an additional Psychic power so DP wings, warptime, wind hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think (I mostly use lord) my gets more wounds from hvy weops and plaz, so MoTz would probably help more. But I never give him it, always just use unmarked (when I do use DP). Keep him cheap, when/if he dies...he dies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I tend to lose him to heavy bolters/autocannons etc but as the others have said, I keep him unmarked to save points. Heck at 1500 or less points I usually don't even give him warptime as he is still pretty good without it with his high WS and S. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Smaller attacks mostly. But that is the main thing I send it after are the small bite size stuff. It really depends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I mostly just mop up tacs or ranged squads with it. I fight my opponents main force and specialits with the bulk of my army while my DP kills his way through their support, and unsupported squads. I usually stick to fights i know he's going to win quickly and let him wipe or run off as many units as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I mostly just mop up tacs or ranged squads with it. I fight my opponents main force and specialits with the bulk of my army while my DP kills his way through their support, and unsupported squads. I usually stick to fights i know he's going to win quickly and let him wipe or run off as many units as possible. That's pretty much what I do with my DP or lord. I don't stick them in a tough fight if I can help it, just totally smash weak or shooty units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I mostly just mop up tacs or ranged squads with it. I fight my opponents main force and specialits with the bulk of my army while my DP kills his way through their support, and unsupported squads. I usually stick to fights i know he's going to win quickly and let him wipe or run off as many units as possible. That's pretty much what I do with my DP or lord. I don't stick them in a tough fight if I can help it, just totally smash weak or shooty units. Yeah, usually he lives unless i'm getting tabled or the opponents send something high powered after him. Then he dies but he'll have distracted a unit that is probably way over his points value. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2085766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dràyhèn Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Neither, 'less you play Cults. If he has Nurgle, then he is certainly aimed at with high str weapons, which bypass T6. And when he has Tzeentch he is aimed at with lower str weapons, if possible, to wear him down. He will die anyways if showing up too early as he is too big threat to ignore, 'less there's something even scarier, so better make it count. I6 isn't always saving your butt, and when that situation comes at hand, you dearly wish your I was higher (well, the same applies to other marks too..). I7 has saved mine many times over and again, striking down that precious handful and cutting enemy's attacks to half. After all, it's only 5pts and take warptime too to guarantee ultimate killyness. When you hit enemy lines, hit them hard. Ofc all cult marks have their functions, but they just cost quite too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 What do you loose your DPs to more? A bunch of lil attacks (gaunts, basic CC, Bolter fire) that would make the MON better? Or a few big attacks (MLs, Lascannons, PFs) that would make MOT better? This would be for a standard Winged Warptime prince. Well if you have a Land Raider or a Defiler, you can often get the best of both worlds. Park your DP behind the vehicle and it should present enough cover to gain a 4+ save, then you can take Nurgle and have T6 with a 3+/4+ save. Having said that, I look at it this way. Against small arms I'm already T5 with a 3+ armor save, thats not too shabby for stopping Bolters or Pulse Rifles and such. Those weapons also have a shorter range, so typically if they can shoot me, I should be able to charge them in the next turn. Against Krak Missiles or LasCannons, I'm relying on a 5++ save since T5/T6 won't make a difference either way. For my money, going to a 4++ save seems like a significant increase against most of the long range weapons that I'd really fear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I6 isn't always saving your butt, and when that situation comes at hand, you dearly wish your I was higher (well, the same applies to other marks too..). I7 has saved mine many times over and again, striking down that precious handful and cutting enemy's attacks to half. DPs have I5 base? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 yes they do and its impossible to have i7 on them . but hey if it "saved you time and time again" , then why not give it 7/8 attacks . would help the DP even more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think I'll give mine str.7 and another wound too. :cry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Of Chaos Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I think I'll just give mine the stats of an'grath and have nothing worse than 8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2086630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dràyhèn Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Ah yeah, a momentary lapse. Yes, I6, I stand corrected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2088001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Ah yeah, a momentary lapse. Yes, I6, I stand corrected. Its ok, Sanity is for the Weak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2088061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Recently I have been losing my DP to a bunch of marker light hits and a Sky Ray seeker missiles from the Tau. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176440-whats-your-biggest-anti-dp-threat/#findComment-2089721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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