Chaos Dreadnaught in reserve

[Magnus Thane]

Finally got a Chaos Dread, quite customized for full melee.

My opponent used one twice with deadly efficiency before. He said early on the Dread proved highly unreliable.

But his lascanon Dread is used through reserve rolls nowadays and I must say the beast does its job with deadly efficiency.

Oddly enough I never saw that approach advocated on the forum. Dread in reserves and than pops up by the side.

[Drudge Dreadnought]

What's the point? It can still fire frenzy and shoot you. You can start with it deployed over to the side anyhow. In fact, this would probably make it more likely that your own guys are the closest. It also ensures that you miss at least a turn or two of shooting with it.

[Magnus Thane]

I actually meant close to the center of the side.

[Drudge Dreadnought]

You cannot come in on the side of the board unless it is table quarters, in which case you are still at the back of your deployment zone, or you have the outflank rule, which dreadnoughts do not.

[the jeske]

not to mention you show up on turn 2/3 when you see the back of your transports or your units behind a rhino wall. so your units are the closest for sure.

[Sanctjud]

@Magnus Thane:

It’s one way around fire frenzy, and it works theory wise as a reserve counter attack option.

 

But the random timing of it, and the lack of initial distance of normal deployment can hinder it a lot more than the crazed table.

 

@Drudge Dreadnoug…

The point is to get around fire frenzy.

 

When there is a rule that would prevent a unit getting on the board, that rule is ignored. So fire frenzy would be ignored once. Page 94 BRB.

 

In addition, you can’t come in on the side in Table Quarters either, reread the entry again. The long table edge is defined. That is where units move on, regardless of deployment zones. Page 88 BRB.

 

My 7 Cents.

[Drudge Dreadnought]

Not being on the board may ensure that you don't fire frenzy and shoot your own units, but it also ensures you aren't shooting theirs just as much as the fire frenzy does. Yes you don't have to worry about FF on the turn you come in, but you'll lose at least 1 turn of shooting anyhow.

[Sanctjud]

@Drudge Dreadnoug...

 

I know, which is why I said:

But the random timing of it, and the lack of initial distance of normal deployment can hinder it a lot more than the crazed table.

 

At the vary least we can call it an option.

 

In addition, if it's a double DCCW, fire frenzy cripplies it by not allowing it to do what it should be. There is merit to using reserves to use it as a sort of counter attack option, but again, the timing is too random to rely on it, in addition the dread just doesn't have the reach needed to perform that role well enough.

 

My 7 Cents.

[Corpse.]

I prefer the classic missile launcher and pick frag when its that time of the... Nvm.