Pavement Artist Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hi all. Newish Black templar here. Curious about the proliferation of certain chapters and mainly what draws you guys to play them. I've noticed around Nottingham where im from and also Colchester where i attend university, Dark angels are a very popular chapter. I've posed this question to the Ultramarines and now i would like to know what makes you followers of the Lion? It seems more obvious to me why Dark angels would be a compelling chapter to play as opposed to Ultramarines. Unlike the Ultras, theres something very chadowy about the DA. Nobodies accusing you of being traitors but theres no getting away from the fact that half of you did go wiggy :D You've got a bit of a habit of dissappearing people that find out aswell and i love that. The fact that you're staunch warriors of the emperor and yet forced into desperate action sometime because you know what would happen if anyone found out. Anyway guys, you let me know what drew you to the DA. Happy hunting Brothers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 They were my first chapter you know... The name, models and fluff drew me. Dark space marines with cloaks and a sinister side? Gotta have it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2122833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkangeldentist Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I like my Dark angels for their background and the versatility of their armies. (Believe it or not.) We've got great background that plunders from various sources and is very distinct. Plus we were the first legion. The dark shadowy edge that comes from the secret is good too but we're loyal to the end. (Well...nearly all of us are.) I also like the fact that we're one of the only chapters to have more than one colour scheme associated with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2122927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Librarian Hesperos Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I chose the Dark Angels purely and entirely for the fluff. I read through their history and was convinced almost on the spot. Then I started playing them, asmodai was my next bargain sealer, he felt like the DA incarnate. Being the first and greatest chapter finally came third. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2122960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Terminators. So many of them... Aside from that...I like the fact that the DA are so many different things. They're warrior monks, but that's only a thin veneer over the tribesmen most of them were when they were young. They spend a large portion of their existence making up for a past error in which the actual right side is shrouded in mystery. Spiritually and practically, there are more demands on them than they can really meet. They are exemplars of what it is to be a Space Marine in the 41st millenium - fighting for a system your own people have no part of for reasons that predate your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather - and are probably lies anyway. History weighs on them, and they are pulled in many different directions by their personal histories, their loyalties to the Imperium and their Chapter, and by the massive demands placed on an organization that needs to be everywhere at once. They're compromised as hell, and are not quite what they seem - or what they think they are. They're very human superhumans, and their humanity makes them interesting. Almost every other marine chapter stops being human - the Dark Angels don't, no matter how hard they try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSturrock Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I like that, when playing the Dark Angels, like Mitchell & Webb's Nazis, I can never be quite sure if we're the baddies or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5WoLnOOlU...player_embedded Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin_eX Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 They were the first army I picked up when I started playing during 2nd Edition. Their colour scheme(s) is what got me. The dark green, the stark bone and the black just played so well together. Next I got into the themes they had and the background elements. They were the first legion, ex-bodyguards to the Emperor himself, led by a tactical genius who grew up in the wilds of the most dangerous world in the Imperium. Their traditions grew out of the knightly orders of their dead homeworld. They had a past rife with history, rivalry and betrayal. Most of all they exemplify the quality of loyalty to the Emperor. Not because they are perfect but because of how they take responsibility for their own mistakes. Many chapters have fallen in the past and they have been goaded to atone for it by the Inquisition or High Lords by going on crusades in order to wipe the stain from their honour. The Dark Angels have too much pride for such a simple punishment and they will except forgiveness from no one but the Emperor himself, no proxy in the form of the High Lords will do. And so they see the only way to absolve their past weakness is to set themselves an impossible task which they could never conceivably succeed in. Their hunt for the fallen is their quest for the holy grail, it is their white whale and nothing short of it or direct absolution by the Emperor himself will allow them to rest. And so, despite this impossible task they have set themselves they still go out and do it and they even succeed at it in bits and pieces. So mix in interesting units in the form of the Deathwing (I love terminators) and the Ravenwing, at the Arthurian theme and sprinkle some great fluff and a killer look and that is why I play Dark Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 I like that, when playing the Dark Angels, like Mitchell & Webb's Nazis, I can never be quite sure if we're the baddies or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5WoLnOOlU...player_embedded +10 internets for you sir :P I've only recently, really come to appreciate the background of the dark angels and as octavulg mentioned, they're extremely compromised in their beliefs whcih makes a refreshing narrative change to other chapters such as the Ultramarines and Imperial fists who have a sort of blind comfort in what they're foing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR Grendelwulf Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I burned myself out during the Eye of Terror campaign playing Chaos and needed a change. It was hard for me to pick a Chapter, especially after playing against so many of them. Then, I started delving into the fluff of the Dark Angels and ran across The Shadow Guard's terrific Fortress of the Unforgiven website and I was hooked. Here was a chapter that really had a dark side (no pun intended) to it. The character of Cypher intrigued me, although I did not wish to play Chaos again. So, using the Codex: Dark Angels, I built a Fallen Angels army of marines who realized they had been betrayed by Luther & Chaos and decided to fight against them. Sure, there could be no redemption, they would still be hunted by the Dark Angels as traitors, but that is the fun of being the 'Anti-Hero'! Ciao, CDR Grendelwulf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Quite simply.....I like green. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughi3 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Originally i played DA simply for our old rules. i wanted a shooty army-an intractable army that didn't run away- i wanted the versatility of differant stand alone armies in one dex-ravenwing and deathwing gave us that. The fluff grew on me over time, now mostly i miss the old fluff based rules and the uniquesness of the chapter that made us different than other chapters. Dammit if somebody in your army who knows something about the fallen(old "hunt the fallen" special rule), to hell with the objectives, we are going after that poor sod, because thats what the dark angels would do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetSgtNamaan Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Who can resist playing the First legion? The fluff is the main reason I play and still play the Dark Angels. The most amazing backstory of any chapter in the 40k universe if you ask me. The rules can come and go but a Dark Angel play I will remain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarStone Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 When I started 40K in 1989, I picked up the RT rulebook, a box of Beakies, a box of TWO Land Raiders, and headed home for a read. In the RT book there was a small fluff box on pages 138 - 139 describing the celebration of the Feast of Malediction by the Dark Angels. It mentioned this annual event celebrating the founding of the Chapter by Lyyn Elgonsen at the beginning of the Imperial Crusades, the status of the Dark Angels as the first chapter, founded by the Emperor Himself. It mentioned the title of the Dark Angel Chapter Master - "Custodian" - acknowledging the Emperor as the true leader of the chapter. I was sold. And the color scheme - black armor, red details - was easy for my minimal skills to replicate. I still grit my teeth when I have to paint my beloved I Legion in *shudder* forest green... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
russyhead Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 For me it was only because I was 9 years old back then in second edition and my cousin had Blood Angels. Then the two codexs were in the same book called Angels of Death. So i just picked the other army in there, DARK ANGELS! And I have kept with them ever since, so 13 years. Didn't take me long to get to know them through and through, still love them. Best Chapter. And only just started to show interest in collecting another chapter (black templars) very recently. Also enjoy Tyranids and Tau. But Dark Angels will always be my favourite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Has to be the fluff Knight on an imposible quest to absolve a sin that they cannot admit and no one can know about and will only accept forgivenes from the Emperor himself sold to the blond kid in glases oh and as a bonus there dark green nice and easy to paint brill!! Then you have the fact that the Dark Angels are the first legion and the epitome of the dedicated Space Marine warrior: serious minded, slow to anger, but tenacious and all but unstoppable in their zeal once aroused to fury!! Add in that they will do anything absolutly anything to keep there secrets and complete there quest and you have some of then best anti hero's ever created Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2123863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'd like to expand on my earlier comment. I like green, simple as that. Back in 2nd Edition, there weren't a huge amount of Chapters, either as colour schemes or other minis. You just had the Big Five and that was it (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Ultramarines being the Big Five), and I picked the Dark Angels. It was when I read the Codex Angels of Death book I was hooked on the Unforgiven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2124685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteraven17708 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I woke up one morning with a bad hangover and these on my arms..... still not sure how they got there but I would look funny playing anything else ;) seriously though it had to be the fluff, best fluff in the game IMO maybe not 'dex wise, but Im not that good of a player anyway lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2124710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altered_Soul Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Back in 3rd edition, when I started playing in my friend's basement, I hated his Chaos Space Marines. I wanted to kill them. So when I went about getting my own army (I actually started in Fantasy) for 40k, I was flipping through the Space Marines fluff stuff (no one in my group played Space Marines if you can believe it), I saw the Dark Angels, and everything about their fluff mentioned killing Chaos Marines. The fact that their symbol is badass and their colors were too, I was determined to pick an army that killed the heretical Berzerkers. Didn't quite work out that way, but I did learn that killing Eldar was just as fun. And that Hunting the Fallen on an IG squad leader was hilarious as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2124877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Cool tattoos whiteraven. Respect. -_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2124900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I started 40K during the Armageddon campaign with Salamander space marines. I was very active through 3rd edition, then 4th edition 40K came out. It seemed to me that everything special of that army was either taken away or given to everyone else, What was left was a nerfed list of a already nerfed army with some spectacular crappy chapter traits, I was....................lost. Focus went to my 'Guard army, rooting around I came across three old Dark angles tactical squad boxes (unopened) three broken terminators, a chaplain on bike and master of the raven wing speeder that I bought used 10 years ago or so. Fixing up these models was a nice change so I bought more, The (then new) dark angles codex then came out, which I liked a lot more than the old forth edition marine codex, which coincided with a 750pt league and then a 1000pt escalation league in the local game store. There that how I got into Dark angles. Kind of Ironic that I am always playing armies with broken or ill conceived rules sets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2128378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Back in the days of the 2nd edition, around 95-96 was when i came aboard as an Dark Angel player. First it was the color of the chapter and the iconography when i read the dreaded "Angels of Death" for the first time. It called to me in a totally different way than any of the other chapters. Once i read the pages dedicated to us i didn't think twice, i found myself as "one of them" and after that... "The Angels of Death" codex became my morning newspaper, my schoolbook and my bedtime reading. My friends have throughout the years been trying to convert me to "try other armies", but never did, and never will. As the others have been shifting from marines to tyranids, to IG and TAU, i stayed loyal and wielded terminator armies(when the 3rd edition came) way before the 5+ inv came. So yeah, all i'm missing now is one huge tattoo of the Dark Angels main chapter icon on the center of my back and Deathwing on the right shoulder, and Ravenwing on the left. To answer the question: DA Fanatic in every aspect, to hell or to the heavens, i'll go with the chapter. Iconography, color, fluff, "The Attitude" and in some aspect the way of thinking. It flows within my blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2130784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Gabriel Macleod Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I have been playing Dark Angels for 20 years. I started when there was little fluff and when Dark Angel paint sceme was black. When 2nd ed Angels of Death Codex came out I read that for days. I loved the history of the chapter and the charactors. I was sad when they change the sceme from black to dark green, but begain to love the the green armor. The Dark Angels have changed very little in terms of fluff. My freinds too have try to get me to field other armies but always stuck with the Dark Angels. I can find no other chapter like it. the fluff, icongraphy , color sceme and fan base. First Legion all the way babe!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2130798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevulf Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I remember when I first came to the store and was about to choose marine chapter (I already knew that I want marines). I looked at three codexes - wolves, blood angels and dark angels. I rejected wolves because I didn't like the idea of 'vikings in space'. I was however strongly influenced by the blood angels but it was monkish marines that i picked eventually. Green warriors in robes with swords, bone terminators (!!!!), black ravenwing vehicles - that was it !!! I also got some info from a friend in store who told me to read DA fluff that they have one of the best in 40k. I read it and agreed to that :) Next I bought codex, two metal marines in blister and asmodai. Thus it began :P BTW I also remember that when I was visiting the store wolves' players were everywhere. They talked how strong and proud they are. That their armies are the best etc. I didn't like that and I think nothing has changed to this day ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2132574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I remember when I first came to the store and was about to choose marine chapter (I already knew that I want marines). I looked at three codexes - wolves, blood angels and dark angels. I rejected wolves because I didn't like the idea of 'vikings in space'. I was however strongly influenced by the blood angels but it was monkish marines that i picked eventually. Green worriors in robes with swords, bone terminators (!!!!), black ravenwing vehicles - that was it !!! Me too. What a totally shallow person I must be – judging a book by it's cover so to speak :tu:. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2132774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevulf Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I remember when I first came to the store and was about to choose marine chapter (I already knew that I want marines). I looked at three codexes - wolves, blood angels and dark angels. I rejected wolves because I didn't like the idea of 'vikings in space'. I was however strongly influenced by the blood angels but it was monkish marines that i picked eventually. Green warriors in robes with swords, bone terminators (!!!!), black ravenwing vehicles - that was it !!! Me too. What a totally shallow person I must be – judging a book by it's cover so to speak :P. Cheers I :D I still love DA despite the 4th Ed Codex :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179390-appeal-of-the-dark-angels/#findComment-2132787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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