Brother Michaels Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 the reason the emperor didnt create more primarchs is because they might go chaos and the emperor knew about the chaos gods so he focused on 20 primarchs if there was 50 primarchs he would not be able to keep an eye on all of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2147329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 In the HH series. Horus is sent back through time to when the Emperor had the primarchs in the vats. If anyone has read the series. Remember he kills a few custodes and then the Emperor comes in and tells him to stop what he is doing. So as there is interaction between horus and the people in the visions i would assume that its time travel. So that being said, the Emperor knew that something was going to happen to them, and that they would mature. So he endevoured to find them again. So it might not be is psykic abilities that let him know about the primarch's servival. In twisting horus to chaos they had to let the Emperor know about it. It was the only way it would work. Just a thought. Was that a real historical event or just a vision/hallucination? I figured it was the latter. I believed that it was just a vision as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2147416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 i always thought the 20 primarchs was a nod to Roman legions, which were 20 strong, with 2 being erased from history. or so i was told. Sounds like whoever told you that was either fairly mis-informed or simply making it up. To date, about 50 have been identified. In the time of the Early Roman Empire, there were usually about 25-35 standing legions plus their Auxiliaries, with more raised as needed. yea, i never cared enough to look it up, but figured it would be fitting if it connected. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2147444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frijj Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 In the HH series. Horus is sent back through time to when the Emperor had the primarchs in the vats. If anyone has read the series. Remember he kills a few custodes and then the Emperor comes in and tells him to stop what he is doing. So as there is interaction between horus and the people in the visions i would assume that its time travel. So that being said, the Emperor knew that something was going to happen to them, and that they would mature. So he endevoured to find them again. So it might not be is psykic abilities that let him know about the primarch's servival. In twisting horus to chaos they had to let the Emperor know about it. It was the only way it would work. Just a thought. Was that a real historical event or just a vision/hallucination? I figured it was the latter. I believed that it was just a vision as well. How do you explain the part of the visions where horus sees a statue of the Emperor, and 9 of the primarchs (the loyalist ones) The way i like to explain it away is that he was forced into the future he created, frightened into turning to choas. After all who better to turn the warmaster than the deciever, i mean how twisted is it to turn someone using their owns fear caused actions to make them fear the future they cause. He is also shuved back to the lunar wolves home planet, bathed in radiation and if i remember rightly a bomb goes off. It seems the most like a daemon of choas god to do that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 You're absolutely right. Horus was convinced to turn against the Emperor by being shown an undesirable future (one in which he isn't even remembered) without knowing that it's a future he himself brings about by turning against his father. The irony of it is delicious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 You're absolutely right. Horus was convinced to turn against the Emperor by being shown an undesirable future (one in which he isn't even remembered) without knowing that it's a future he himself brings about by turning against his father. The irony of it is delicious. It's not delicious it's, as Tzeentch would put it, just as planned. The one plan the Emperor is probably really wishing never came to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingo Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 It still remains ambiguous as to whether it was real or not, which makes it more interesting really. Either is possible, unless a BL author has confirmed one way or the other? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 It still remains ambiguous as to whether it was real or not, which makes it more interesting really. Either is possible, unless a BL author has confirmed one way or the other? From how I read it the "vision" seemed like a perfect replication of the future AFTER they turned Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingo Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 It still remains ambiguous as to whether it was real or not, which makes it more interesting really. Either is possible, unless a BL author has confirmed one way or the other? From how I read it the "vision" seemed like a perfect replication of the future AFTER they turned Horus. True, it seemed that way. But it still could be an illusion presented by Chaos, albeit one that indeed turned out to be true. All I meant was that we cannot know for certain either way :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181089-why-didnt-the-emperor-create-more-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2149923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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