Daren Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I was wondering about this earlier. We clearly know a chaos fueled Horus couldn't beat him. So how many Primarchs would it take to beat the Emperor in a fight. Would certain combination's have more success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Um, a chaos filled Horus did beat him, he just hesitated at the final moment and got stabbed. Important that you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I think the Emperor could kill them all at once, the only reason his huge attack on Horus left him near dead and on the throne was because of his severely weakened state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I think the Emperor could kill them all at once, the only reason his huge attack on Horus left him near dead and on the throne was because of his severely weakened state. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 lets not get into this discussion...cause the fluff goes both ways on this. and we dont need another repeat of us shouting sources at each other. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 13th Goat Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Granted, but lets take it from the OP's original point: Emperor Vs Primarch Tag team (or more) Mortal combat style, Chaos power put aside, feeling put aside. In my opinion: Magnus & Alpharuis/Omegon (they count as 1 :lol: ) The twins pin him down while magnus performs magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLKlEE32EUs here ya go, its bleach subbed with family guy. thats how it would go, mayuri(scary clown) being the emperor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 to be honest, do you think alpharius and omegron could actuall pin the emperor in hand to hand combat...this is the guy that took a necron god and emprisoned him in mars...alone. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 13th Goat Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, thats always bugged me. From the sounds of it, he killed it in our Dark Ages. How the hell did he get to Mars? And breath there? In all seriousness, Magnus would need to be their combat the psychic powers (distracting him in the dual) and someone that could nearly match his combat prowess like Angron, Horus, Dorn, Russ or Khan. Not saying the others couldn't, but their my first picks. Or 3 Primarches and he is screwed, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 well the battle he had with Horus he was fighting him physically and with his psychic might. so while Horus had the upper hand, the Emperor was restraining himself out of a to-this-point unseen fatherly affection...when he unleashed it only took a single bolt of power to vanquish Horus. so i honestly dont think any of the primarchs, even ganging together, could take on the Emperor if he was fighting for real. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 well the battle he had with Horus he was fighting him physically and with his psychic might. so while Horus had the upper hand, the Emperor was restraining himself out of a to-this-point unseen fatherly affection...when he unleashed it only took a single bolt of power to vanquish Horus.so i honestly dont think any of the primarchs, even ganging together, could take on the Emperor if he was fighting for real. WLK Don't even bring up the Horus vs. Emperor battle. I am not going to argue with your statement because I am trying not to bring up that debate again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 well the battle he had with Horus he was fighting him physically and with his psychic might. so while Horus had the upper hand, the Emperor was restraining himself out of a to-this-point unseen fatherly affection...when he unleashed it only took a single bolt of power to vanquish Horus.so i honestly dont think any of the primarchs, even ganging together, could take on the Emperor if he was fighting for real. WLK Don't even bring up the Horus vs. Emperor battle. I am not going to argue with your statement because I am trying not to bring up that debate again. Well its kind of hard to not bring up their fight when we're discussing how the Emperor would deal with potential traitor primarchs. If you feel a desparate need to reply to my statement, just say what your source says and leave it at that. we can have civilized, if differing, opinions and debate on this forum. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-wrex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 well the battle he had with Horus he was fighting him physically and with his psychic might. so while Horus had the upper hand, the Emperor was restraining himself out of a to-this-point unseen fatherly affection...when he unleashed it only took a single bolt of power to vanquish Horus.so i honestly dont think any of the primarchs, even ganging together, could take on the Emperor if he was fighting for real. WLK Don't even bring up the Horus vs. Emperor battle. I am not going to argue with your statement because I am trying not to bring up that debate again. Well its kind of hard to not bring up their fight when we're discussing how the Emperor would deal with potential traitor primarchs. If you feel a desparate need to reply to my statement, just say what your source says and leave it at that. we can have civilized, if differing, opinions and debate on this forum. WLK Agreed. Part of being civil is understanding differing opinions. That said, I agree with what Kieran said initially. No primarch could have taken the Emprah if he was dedicated to winning the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneato Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Horus and Fulgrim with mortarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 All the primarches have one element that makes up the Emperor, so in a straight up fight youd need all 20 to match him.. only two have already been killed off/missing Coincidence?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The Emperor could kill all the Primarchs fairly easily I'm sure. Even Horus fueled to the brim with the power of all the Chaos Gods was killed by The Emperor just sort of blinking his psychic power at him. Hell, it might take The Emperor more effort to not accidentally kill people than it would take him to kill them all. The only reason Horus messed him up is because he just kinda stood there and let Horus wail on him until he snapped out of his disbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 loyalists will say the emperor is unbeatable while traitors will say he'll probably lose to a good combination. I have a feeling this thread will receive the melta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 no I think a good combination could kill the emp. just like a couple of gaurdsmen could kill an space marine with the right means.. for example you need a couple distractions and a killer with a melta or something like that.. in the emp fight it would be something like this. magnus for the psychic powers russ , Angron and ????? for the physical match corax or alpharius for the sneaky killing blow the end :( cheers atin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathTyrant Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Just how prepared he is for it makes all the difference I expect. I mean, were he to 'fire his lazors' at maximum power for as long as he could sustain, he could possibly melt the lot of them if they were huddled together. They wouldn't be that stupid though, and they would come from all angles, with their own tricks and style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 @sons of horus: thanks for giving us some objectiveness here. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Well, given that the Emperor appears to be capapble of being wounded (nearly killed by an ork warlord, and obviously Horus managed to injure him), and appears to not be very good at reading minds all the time (couldnt tell which Primarchs were Loyal) - I figure it would require entrapment to lure him to a place where a sufficiently large booby-trap has been set (something like a space ship engine going supernova would do the trick I reckon). So maybe You're looking at either Night Haunter or Alpharius/Omegon as the distraction/lure to get him to the target zone, and then either of them or Corax to set the trap (ruling out Dorn or Peturbo as it'd need to be a stealthy trap, not something more solid - I'm sure they can do fortification traps, but that might be too obvious to make the Emperor look for traps). Then you might need someone to engage him in the trap (and be willing to die in the trap too - no get-out clause) to stop him wandering out of it - which could entail Sang (martial prowess, willingness to sacrifice himself if neccesary, Angron - pure bloody-minded aggression, Mortarion - stubbornness and willing to push for victory to the point of death, or Dorn - stubborn and self sacrificial tendancies). Somthing like that might work. But a straight up fight, high-noon stylee? The Emperor would win. 1-on-1 he could take any of them, and he would have had ways of making sure he only took them on one-on-one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateJake Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Well if all the Primarchs came at him at once from all sides he'd just smack them aside with his psychich powers. However, he might be able to bested in combat (bested, not killed). But the problem is actually getting that close and I think the Emperor would take out the Primarchs that posed a threat to him first. So Magnus would likely be blasted away instantly in a psychic duel and anyone trying to meet him in combat killed instantly be psychich powers. And if we're going to start another debate can we please start another thread, because it would kind of crowd this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 His psychic might is nearly unlimited. There's not much anyone could do against that. In a "no psychic powers allowed" straight up melee though you could probably take him down with like 2 or 3 Primarchs. Maybe Angron + Russ + Sanguinius or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateJake Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 His psychic might is nearly unlimited. There's not much anyone could do against that. In a "no psychic powers allowed" straight up melee though you could probably take him down with like 2 or 3 Primarchs. Maybe Angron + Russ + Sanguinius or something. Yeah, he really really shines in psychich powers which as you said are near unlimitted. However, he wasn't really that great of a melee person. (He could kill almost anyone, but they weren't really close to his psychich powers so it was sort of a weakness I guess) Yeah if you send in maybe 2 or 3 Primarchs with the Emperor using no psychich powers at all he would probably fall. But, he would take at least one with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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