Candleshoes Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 On the latest Black Library interview, Abnett confirms that the Twin Primarch Alpha Omega concept came from GW itself, an idea that they had been holding since as early as 1989. He never made the connection or came up with the idea himself while brainstorming Legion, but he certainly snatched and fleshed out the story well enough when they sat down with him. Interview here: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/BLTV-Q-A-...Dan-Abnett.html For all those people who have been harboring the: "He is going too far, taking cannon and twisting it in ways GW never meant it to be" I laugh at you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Saaaweeet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Can we still say it's a completely stupid idea? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 So it was GWs idea? Good, means I don't have to murder Abnett. Mr O., yes.. yes we can! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korraz Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Huh? I haven't read Legion. Did I miss something about AlphariusOmegon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Huh? I haven't read Legion. Did I miss something about AlphariusOmegon? AlphariusOmegon.. one Primarch in two bodies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'd heard that it has been around for decades for a while now but it's nice to actually have a video to direct people to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Can we still say it's a completely stupid idea? My thoughts exactly. ;) Pulling a twin thing struck me as a 'plotline from a daytime soap opera' kind of device - not what I expected from a writer like Mr. Abnett, who I generally rate highly. Hopefully the sequel won't follow the same trend and have one of the twins get amnesia, or end up nearly marrying someone who turns out to be their long lost sister. :unsure: Otherwise, the interview was interesting, and he seemed to be a very nice person. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 On the latest Black Library interview, Abnett confirms that the Twin Primarch Alpha Omega concept came from GW itself, an idea that they had been holding since as early as 1989. And they never went with it. Not in any previous Codex Chaos, not in the Alpha Legion Index Astartes. That sounds like it was an obscure plot idea someone had mentioned in the days of Rogue Trader, but which was never picked up. There is enough background from that time that had been made obsolete with the advent of 2nd Edition and the revamping of the 40K universe. That one did not even make it into Rogue Trader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I actually like the twin primarch idea. Shoot me, then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I actually like the twin primarch idea. Shoot me, then *arms Plasma Cannon.. Then screams as it overheats..* You got lucky, ya hear, lucky! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korraz Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I actually like the twin primarch idea. Shoot me, then I'm with you. Somehow I always took as granted that they are to halves of one whole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAtrox Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Considering most of the 40K fluff, daytime soap opera is an upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 That is a somewhat interesting fact, however I think its far more interesting that he actually confirms that the missing primarchs are missing so the fans can fill in the gaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mechanicum Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 That was really cool, plus I do think that having the Alpha Legion be twins means that we have a completely unknown factor for when the Ultramarines come and kill Alpharius after the heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2341896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I liked the twin idea. i find it very fitting for the Alpha Legion. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I actually like the twin primarch idea. Shoot me, then I actually like the twin primarch idea. Shoot me, then *arms Plasma Cannon.. Then screams as it overheats..* You got lucky, ya hear, lucky! :) Proves my point shooting is unreliable *Charges Brother Captain Alecto with a Thunder Hammer* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Great...they meant to do it for a while. That doesn't mean it makes sense now. Its still bat:cuss weird and completely unexplained. I mean, the Primarchs were already "born" when they were cast into the warp. An extra pair of eyes peering out of the iron womb seems like something the Emperor might have noticed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobo Willie Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Unless, you know, they split in warp transit. You know. Like how Sanguinius grew wings in warp transit. Magnus became a cyclopes in warp transit and so forth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Unless, you know, they split in warp transit. You know. Like how Sanguinius grew wings in warp transit. Magnus became a cyclopes in warp transit and so forth. Well if you read 1000 sons its implied that the warp transit is not the reason Magnus has 1 eye. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkana Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Sweet...so maybe Alpharius is still alive. Or Omegon. I'll take either at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dràyhèn Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Well, I don't take that so seriously - the point that it goes against fluff in one way. I mean, of course it is against the fluff in the sense that there were meant to be 20 primarchs, two of them are lost to us yes, 18 we know, but then there's this one who has "split" into two beings, thus creating a one primarch more. But so what? That's perfectly fitting into theme + it adds a twist into that ultra's log, which said that Guilliman killed Alpharius in a duel. Could've been Omegon or Alpharius, or an unknown legionnaire masked into either of them. Isn't that fascinating when everything is cloaked in a thick fog? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Well, I don't take that so seriously - the point that it goes against fluff in one way. I mean, of course it is against the fluff in the sense that there were meant to be 20 primarchs, two of them are lost to us yes, 18 we know, but then there's this one who has "split" into two beings, thus creating a one primarch more. But so what? That's perfectly fitting into theme + it adds a twist into that ultra's log, which said that Guilliman killed Alpharius in a duel. Could've been Omegon or Alpharius, or an unknown legionnaire masked into either of them. Isn't that fascinating when everything is cloaked in a thick fog? Actually no because AlphariusOmegon are one soul in two bodies meaning that they are infact one Primarch but the "essence" of which is spilt . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I think part of the problem is people read the rulebook, IA and codxes and think; That is it. This is the official fluff and anything that comes after is just stupid/fiction. They've sealed it off there when GW wasn't done with it yet. And I don't know why people complain when more info get added to vague bits of story. 'Well that wasn't there before', well there wasn't much there before to begin with so it's not like there isn't room for it to have taken place. It's not like the vague bits of fluff covered absolutely EVERYTHING that went on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I still find the whole twin idea weak but then again that's just me... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/196510-abnett-confirms-legion-question/#findComment-2342848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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