Jakobus Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 So we where talking ;) at the LGS over the weekend and this topic came up So Mephiston and other non-IC HQs can still get a Honor Guard they just can't join the unit. An Honor Guard can buy a dedicated transport When it is deployed only the unit it can carry it the unit it was selected with Now since both the non-IC HQ and the HG occupy the same FOC would you be able to load your non-IC HQ in the dedicated transport? The second ponit seemed much clearer to me but others didn't think so. Dawn of War deployment allows up to 1 HQ and 2 troops. This means you could set up 1)The Non-IC HQ 2)Honor Guard 3) Troops #1 4) Troops #2 A mate gave me a dirty cheese look when I was explaining this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridlocked Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yes you can load the HQ with out IC into the transport. If you take a look around theres a battle report where someone loaded Sangy into a Stormraven for devistating effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 The storm raven is a heavy support item not a dedicated transport. I don't think you can do this with a dedicated transport Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Mephiston could not start the game in his Honor Guard's transport. He can board it first turn as long as no one else is on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 The second ponit seemed much clearer to me but others didn't think so.Dawn of War deployment allows up to 1 HQ and 2 troops. This means you could set up 1)The Non-IC HQ 2)Honor Guard 3) Troops #1 4) Troops #2 A mate gave me a dirty cheese look when I was explaining this JamesI answered the first question. As for the second, you are only allowed 1 HQ unit, so no-go on trying to deploy the Honour Guard and Mephiston, for example; they are in all ways conceivable two seperate units. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridlocked Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 The storm raven is a heavy support item not a dedicated transport. I don't think you can do this with a dedicated transport Woop my bad. But I am still sure you can jump a Non-IC guy in a transport providing its empty. And as James said as long as its during the game not during deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookielips Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 a very viable tactic/list i saw was 2 SRs with meph in one and DC in the other. 10dc + lemmie + meph + 2 DC dreads in their face. baals to harrass with mass LR/rb's crossing the field to support, or SG/VV dropping in on flanks to support meph & co smashing into things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 So we where talking :huh: at the LGS over the weekend and this topic came up So Mephiston and other non-IC HQs can still get a Honor Guard they just can't join the unit. An Honor Guard can buy a dedicated transport When it is deployed only the unit it can carry it the unit it was selected with Now since both the non-IC HQ and the HG occupy the same FOC would you be able to load your non-IC HQ in the dedicated transport? The second ponit seemed much clearer to me but others didn't think so. Dawn of War deployment allows up to 1 HQ and 2 troops. This means you could set up 1)The Non-IC HQ 2)Honor Guard 3) Troops #1 4) Troops #2 A mate gave me a dirty cheese look when I was explaining this Yup matey - just a few things to clarify - (theyve been said already). The non-IC status matters not for the deployment of the DoW mission. Additionally, as noted, the HG is a separate unit, it is not a retinue. And as a result, you could not set up all four of those, nor would you be able to set up the non-IC HQ in the dedicated transport (for two reasons- one because that would break the 1 HQ unit rule, and two because you cannot deploy a unit into a dedicated transport that is not its own at the start of the game. Best say sorry to your matey :o :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Sorry to hijack a little, but if I had a 5-Marine RAS with a dedicated RB, can a SP not be in the RB with them from deployment? I thought you could, or maybe I'm getting all confused here, hehe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Sorry to hijack a little, but if I had a 5-Marine RAS with a dedicated RB, can a SP not be in the RB with them from deployment? I thought you could, or maybe I'm getting all confused here, hehe. The SP can be in with them! But only if he is with them. He wouldnt be able to be in there alone! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Gotcha, thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202898-rules-question-on-non-ic-hqs/#findComment-2418693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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