Hepburn Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 So after perusing the all mighty Imperial Guard "Leaf Blower" list I noticed that they run an allied Inquisitor as to get free shots at Deep Strikers. I feel this tech could be of some use to my BA tourney army so I dug out my Daemonhunters codex and took a gander at what I could make. Here in lies my question; Inquisitor Lords have the option of taking a psychic hood. However, if you browse through the description in the wargear section you will notice that the DH psychic hood is still using the old version (i.e. no 24" range limitation). If i use him with my BA army, should I adhere to the new 5th edition range limitation or is this yet another loophole we can get away with? =) ...oh and first post btw! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 A DH Psychic Hood is a DH Psychic Hood. No loophole to be had; everyone has access to that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 limitless range indeed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Theres very little we can put out raw damage wise to make the mystic squad really worthwhile. The LD 10 hood however is very useful. But you can get that on a GK term squad too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 hmmm.... maybe let a BAAL or Vindi shoot at it? just like the IG do with their Medusae? edit: spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Theres very little we can put out raw damage wise to make the mystic squad really worthwhile. I completely disagree with this. If you have a tac squad with a plasma cannon, it's a credible threat to any sort of deep striker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookielips Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The LD 10 hood however is very useful. furi libbies are LD10. just sayin. But you can get that on a GK term squad too! thats where the real value comes in. an awesome termi squad advancing across the field. another member posted a cool fluff about using a GKGM and 3 termi retinue. put a SP in with him, maybe even a chappie in termi armor, and you have a true BA death star. obviously they need a LRR or LRC or SR to ride in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hepburn Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 hmmm.... maube let a BAAL or Vindi shoot at it? just like the IG do with their Medusae? My thought was a vindicator would do the shooting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I've seen Inquisitor with Mystics (and the psychic hood of course) hanging out near Devastators with Multimeltas. 4 Multimelta shots can ruin just about anything's day. I haven't tried this myself yet, but my next game I know I'll be facing Inquisitor/Mystics/Multimeltas, which could keep me from doing much deepstriking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The LD 10 hood however is very useful. furi libbies are LD10. just sayin. But you can get that on a GK term squad too! thats where the real value comes in. an awesome termi squad advancing across the field. another member posted a cool fluff about using a GKGM and 3 termi retinue. put a SP in with him, maybe even a chappie in termi armor, and you have a true BA death star. obviously they need a LRR or LRC or SR to ride in. guilty as charged, though I don't personally play this tactic it is atleast possible for a little while longer and could make for some fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 wait.... .GKT's get the bonus from the SP? that would be..... a genious asset Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 they do indeed giving them S7 I5 PW on the charge... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 they do indeed giving them S7 I5 PW on the charge... The world must never see this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 put a spoiler tag over it. the may not know! keep it quiet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Kluft Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I used this combo in the ard'boys semi. Was pretty ok, not awesome. My first game was vs mech guard, so there was no deepstriking. second game vs chaos, but he blew up my vindis the first turn so they didnt get to shoot. When he did deepstrike I rolled, 1, 1, 1, 3 so I didnt get to use the mystics. The psy hood was awesome though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The only problem with the GKT unit is you can't buy them a Transport Land Raider easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookielips Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The only problem with the GKT unit is you can't buy them a Transport Land Raider easily. if you want the discount (or to be able to unlock the LR) buy a cheap RAS5, park it on a home objective, and embark the termi's turn 1. Easily done. what would truly make a GK deathstar: GKGM 3x retinue (1xincinerator or psycannon) SP in termi armor termi chappie libby in termi w might of heroes (for the GKGM) fits in a LRC, and that's just sickness. Remember aegis works on the vehicle (i think....). 2x psycannon/psybolts would DEVOUR invul saves, and I think at I5 you would slaughter almost everything it would face. course, it's hellaciously expensive..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Aegis only works on infantry. And is rubbish anyway. The Librarian is overkill there. If you can't kill whatever you are charging with that lot then you are probably playing Apocalypse and the target is a named Greater Daemon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 drop teh cahppy. get a libby w/ the upgrade. then he can use MoH & UR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Theres very little we can put out raw damage wise to make the mystic squad really worthwhile. I completely disagree with this. If you have a tac squad with a plasma cannon, it's a credible threat to any sort of deep striker. In retrospect Plasma Devs too hey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The LD 10 hood however is very useful. furi libbies are LD10. just sayin. Yup yup. But still 24" range only. The inq LD10 hood is across the board! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Pickens Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I've seen Inquisitor with Mystics (and the psychic hood of course) hanging out near Devastators with Multimeltas. 4 Multimelta shots can ruin just about anything's day. I haven't tried this myself yet, but my next game I know I'll be facing Inquisitor/Mystics/Multimeltas, which could keep me from doing much deepstriking. I had a plasma cannon squad take out half my army once with this "tactic" before I knew not to deepstrike anything against an army with mystics... Not to mention it was my second game back with 40k after a lengthy layoff from 3-4th editions. I had never even seen the =I= codex, so knew nothing of the allies abilities, and it basically ruined the game, because that one squad removed most of my threats before they landed lol. Live and learn, but I still believe its a total crutch to use this unit with the newer codexes, and in any situation aside from 'ard boys or a WAAC game I find it truly distasteful to see them in IG or SM armies. Dont forget to take the GK terminators with their +2S power weapons and combine them with the blood chalice for truly epic levels of lame! :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookielips Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 drop teh cahppy. get a libby w/ the upgrade. then he can use MoH & UR not in the same phase, unless you get the epistolary upgrade (which may actually be worth it in this one case) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 i meant that with the upgrade. i couldn't get on the name xD a Chaplain is actually more points then the upgrade so.... worth it? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2436992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake28 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Just take a lone Grey Knight Brother Captain. He's an HQ choice, requires no bodyguard and is an Independent Character so he can join any friendly unit. The best part is that he has access to the Daemonhunters armory, so you can take a psychic hood. All told he'd only cost 81 points and could easily hide in a squad or join a unit that already has a Land Raider transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204332-allied-inquisitors-psychic-hood/#findComment-2437043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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