Delvarus Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 this has caused some heated debate in our group but i fear i may already know the answer. it has been argued that the generation of extra attacks a pair of blood talons is capable of can keep on going untill all models in the opposing squad are killed. surely for this to happen the dread will need to be in base contact with all the enemy models and it dosnt just keep wading thru the squad untill it stops generating attacks. can anyone explain this to me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 You determine what squads you can hit before you start swinging. So, every model in the squad is at risk of the blood talons, even the ones out of 2 inches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetholicHawk Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Doesn't matter if they are in base or not, you keep going until the unit is dead or you fail to hit/wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 at the risk of sounding dumb, your telling me the dread can be in base contact with lets say 3 out of 10 models but it can end up killing them all in the same assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetholicHawk Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burningblood Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yes. Remember that this does kind of make sense. Its huge! compared to an ork nob its huge! Its using lightning claws to channel all that mass into an attack. I've used a tallon dread to take out the head ultramarine chaplain and a squad of 10 sternguard in two player turns (my assault turn and his assault turn). Granted they did manage to kill it because they were all going at the same initiative during his assault turn, but becase he kept generating unsaved wounds he kept attacking and attacking. It was awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 you've made my day. cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burningblood Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 you're welcome! It is in the codex gear entry. just make them read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korraz Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 It doesn't by the way, matter if you are in B-contact with any models when you attack, if you were in contact at the beginng of the combat. One of the changes of the fifth edition. In 4th you were able to remove dead models from the B-contact of, say, a Powerfist, which would then not be able attack anyone. Now ist simple: You were in contact at the beginning of the fight, you can attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorider2 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 An illustration in the brb clearly shows even so they CAN be wounded in combat (though not an IC of course). Its sort of like in the shooting phase you can kill models that are out of range as long as originally one model was with range. But in reality it would have to be a fairly strung out squad hit on the flank for this rule to take effect. The models in question would have to be over a full 8 inches away from the originally charged model. And yes, talons are quite awesome and one of the best answers to hordes ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204453-blood-talons-rules/#findComment-2438058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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