biglou666 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 hmmm, might add a banner, but only to give dante an extra attack. idea: add a jumping librarian to the squad, with shield of sanguinius? 5+ invuns are quite useful tbh. also, mabye give him moh, and use that on dante. 10 attacks on charge ftw! what do you think? should i add a librarian to the sqaud? or is that too much for one sqaud? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2450798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 well i added a banner to the squad! sorry devlonir, but if dante is running witht the squad im going for that extra attack! thanks for the idea godhead! :P pictures tonight. im just finishing basing them now, they are almost done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2451718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 sorry for the triple post, but i have pictures now! so im sure you'll forgive me.... anyway, i added a banner, and finished adding detail and based them. Also, put a little bit of white on the apothacary. Whaddya think?!?!? http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/updatedhg198.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/updatedhg194.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/updatedhg197.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/updatedhg193.jpg well? do you like em now there done? dont forget there riding with dante for that precise deepstrike, and backup if they get into a CC kerfuffle. (teehee i love that word!) anyone else got thier pictures of similar loadouts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2452603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahrikmili Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well, my squad is not even primed yet, and has no jumppacks.. but yeah I got a squad with four plasmaguns. I can take photos sometime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2452957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I like them!! PLAY TEST PLAY TEST PLAY TEST. I want to hear how they work out. I love plasma guns :rolleyes:. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I do like the idea and would like to hear about how they work. I think adding one with a meltagun inside might be nice, but thats a lot of str 7/ap 2 in your face to deal with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodf Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Pie plates or not, here are my honour guard, they are not %100 finished, ive got a few more seals and nicks to paint first, but what i really ewant to know is what do you think of my gold?:http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/IMG_0707.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/IMG_0712.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/IMG_0711.jpg http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/biglou666/IMG_0710.jpg enjoy! i want all comments on the painting, but please remember i have one or two more details to do yet,.... including the bases! -_- please deflash your models. but they look very evenly painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 well i played vs salamanders yesterday, and they kicked ass! my opponent, ( a good friend of mine) is a very beardy salamanders player. u know the slamanders special rules? twin linked flame and melta weapons? mastercrafted thunder hammers? well what he did comes down under rules abuse. a ten man thammer termie sqaud plus double melta land speeders, and an all flame sternguard squad as vulkans retinue! and the rest! it was a tough game but thanks to dante and co i managed to get a draw. Deepstriked behind his termies, plasmad 5 of them. then i got charged next turn. that was a mistake for him :teehee: dante ripped 3 more apart, then the rest of the squad finished them off with thier pointy sticks. ( unfortunatley, next turn they got charged by an iron clad. that was the end of the road for them.) but they took out one hell of a sqaud! if it wasnt for them dropping in turn 3, it would have been curtains for me. man he is one mean tactician that player. i wish blangels had a rule like that. :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hi Big Lou Interesting thread. Some sudgestions for your models, wash the gold in, was it, hazlenut ink? then high light again with the two shades of gold (makes armour appear ancient) oh and yes get rid of the flash lines.. :lol: I do plasma guns like yourself.. great work on them I'm doing my HG atm as well, well have been doing for maybe 2 years.. lol seen three codexes during this project. (gotta remake the damned thing everytime they print a book) Anyway I was considering honourguard two with a melta pistols and power weapons, one with a thunderhammer, 2 with pairs of lightening claws. One of the guard with a melta and powerweapon shall also bear the chapter banner, this I want to use as a counts as spear (ie the power weapon).. the idea of jump pack troops swooping around with an unairodynamic giant flag to me is plain ridiculous so I have modeled the spear of teletro or what ever it was called from the blood angels novels. I wanted to team up the honour guard with Dante and planned to deepstrike them into games where they might soften up enemy HQs with the meltas and then charge to finish them next turn, assuming theyr not charged first wich doesnt really bother me tooled up so I am with the claws and so or possibly use another cheaper unit as a shield between Dante's Guard and the enemy. Then if any turns left wreak carnage. I have a couple of questions, is the sanguinary novitiate limted to bolt pistol/bolt gun and chainsword or can he choose weapons like the rest of his squad mates (is a member of the honourguard after all) and what do you peoples think of my squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I've had mixed success with them - the biggest problem is that to get within rapid-fire range, they're then within assault range for the next turn. They have had some fantastic successes - two Terminator squads destroyed in consectutive turns, a pod of Sternguard wiped out the turn they arrived with no casualties, and an entire flank of Guard wiped out in waves as they advanced. They've also been wiped out in combat before they've got their points back more than once. It's a fine balance to get them into position, especially now that their reputation goes before them. is the sanguinary novitiate limted to bolt pistol/bolt gun and chainsword or can he choose weapons like the rest of his squad mates No, he can't take any upgrades - he's listed seperately in the Unit Compostion, and is never given any Options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2453394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodric Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Wow, for some reason I'm drawing a major blank here. Do plasmaguns use the small blast template? And can Honor Guard equipped with Plasmaguns still fire 24" after moving their full 12"? Great models too by the way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Wow, for some reason I'm drawing a major blank here. Do plasmaguns use the small blast template? And can Honor Guard equipped with Plasmaguns still fire 24" after moving their full 12"? Plasmacannons use the small blast template, not plasma guns. And only relentless units can move and still fire plasmaguns 24 inches. The only relentless units available to BA are bikes and terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 And only relentless units can move and still fire plasmaguns 24 inches. The only relentless units available to BA are bikes and terminators. Don't forget the Death Company. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I was going to point out that DC can't take plasmaguns, but neither can terminators, so I guess I have to admit I just forgot about the whole relentless DC thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybnick Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I can see some benefits to running a 4 plasma gun kitted HG with Dante. Rapid fire plasma into just about any squad is going to hurt something, and even if they get charged before your next turn Dante being I6 should hopefully at least let him throw down some attacks and with hit and run they could potentially get out of cc and shoot and assault again next turn. Give the HG SS would be an even better option (despite being prohibitively expensive). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Why not use Vanguard and take melta pistols, meltabombs and a power fist? You drop in and fire the melta pistols then assault if needed using the meltabombs and finally the power fist. If either the infernus pistols or meltabombs immobilize the enemy tank then you are automatically hitting in close combat. That's the beauty of meltabombs and a power fist... Meltabombs strike first then if you immobilize the power fist is automatic. I learned this tactic from a friend who pulls this tactic with mounted Wolf Lord joined to a squad of Thunderwolves. Basically you are trading the range of the meltagun for the greater potential to inflict more damage over the course of a turn... It really works well versus IG tank squadrons. 0b Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2462880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 ( unfortunatley, next turn they got charged by an iron clad. that was the end of the road for them.) but they took out one hell of a sqaud! So they haven't had the chance for Dante's hit & run? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2463117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 sadly vahouth, no. what with dante being an IC, the dread singled him out in cc, and instagibbed him with strength 10 attacks. it was funny though! B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2463321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 sadly vahouth, no. what with dante being an IC, the dread singled him out in cc, and instagibbed him with strength 10 attacks. it was funny though! <_< :) Better luck next time... By the way, great HGs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205236-honour-guard-plasma-guns/page/2/#findComment-2463407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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