Jakobus Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I've just been reading up on Tyranid hive fleets, partly in prep for the Deathwatch RPG and partly because I'm toying with the idea of a Genestealer cult army... but anyway to the point. I don't happen to have my BA codex handy as a friend has borrowed it, but which Hive fleet is on the direct course with Baal? I initially thought it was Leviathan but the path of that fleet seems to be coming in from the bottom edge of the universe which would have to go through a lot of space with at least three chapters homeworlds along that path. So is there a tendril of Leviathan that has been able to move that far out from the main hive fleet? Or am I remembering the write-up on Darkest hour incorrectly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Isn't it Moloch, coming in from the northeast towards Baal, Baal being north of the galactic center? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 its a leviathan tendril. leviathan is actually coming up from below the plane of the galaxy, think of an xyz axis with the galaxy lying primarily in teh xy plane and levithan is moving along z. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Err, yeah, Leviathan according to the BA codex p 17 darkest hour. I was looking a different fluff, mainly galaxy maps :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 buuut; then leviathan got through/past the Maelstrom? becuase BAAL is not far north of it :S so.... what would've been the faith of the red corsairs etc? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 No they are comming from beneath, as in imagine the galaxy as a plate, they are attacking from below the plate through it. the best image of this is in the tyranid codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 mmm, ah, i see..... now that's kinda not expected ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2449600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 OK, I haven't had a chance to look at the 'nid codex I was just looking at the map in the BRB Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burningblood Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Remember the galaxy is not 2d. The milky way is a big place- I'm sure the Nid ships could figure out how to navigate obstacles. My question is: why is Leviathan going after Baal in particular, and how does anyone know that it is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Remember the galaxy is not 2d. The milky way is a big place- I'm sure the Nid ships could figure out how to navigate obstacles.My question is: why is Leviathan going after Baal in particular, and how does anyone know that it is? Warp echos? We know theyre attracted to large warp signatures, perhaps this daemonic incursion has been coming for longer than we thought- or heck, maybe they started that way when sanguinius was still around, who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake28 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 The Tyranids aren't really going after anywhere in particular (other than Terra, as noted in Codex: Tyranids). They just sort of chug along eating whatever they come across. The Baal system got unlucky, unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Firedrake28, one of the codexes, either the necron one or maybe one of the books described how tyranids avoid necron worlds. Also, one of the Commisars (Yarrik?) had a plan to exterminus worlds to redirect the tyranids towards ork worlds. Dunno off the top of my head which refs (so many out there!) but the hive fleets aren't completely directionless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake28 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Firedrake28, one of the codexes, either the necron one or maybe one of the books described how tyranids avoid necron worlds. Also, one of the Commisars (Yarrik?) had a plan to exterminus worlds to redirect the tyranids towards ork worlds. Dunno off the top of my head which refs (so many out there!) but the hive fleets aren't completely directionless. No, I know. I didn't explain what I meant very well, my mistake. What I meant to say is that there's likely no real reason behind the Tyranids arriving in the Baal system other than random chance - the Nids were just being Nids and they stumbled across the Blood Angels' territory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Firedrake28, one of the codexes, either the necron one or maybe one of the books described how tyranids avoid necron worlds. Also, one of the Commisars (Yarrik?) had a plan to exterminus worlds to redirect the tyranids towards ork worlds. Dunno off the top of my head which refs (so many out there!) but the hive fleets aren't completely directionless. Your thinking of kryptmans gamble, he redirected one of leviathans tendrils into the orc empire of charadon as a delaying tactic after he had been kicked out of the ordo for instigating the leviathan quaratine and giving up all the worlds covered by the shadow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2450642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 nids arnt directionless,they are attracted to phsycic beacons(the emperor for instance) and food and the calls of genestealer cults. now if blood angels can feel the call of items that have hld the blood of sanguinius, how might the call of his corpse affect nids? after all baal is kinda barren with not a lot of populace for feeding on... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2451320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 never said they were, and while having nids hunting down the corpse of sanguinius is pretty cool I think in this case its more of a "Whos a big bad mean guy I can use" on wards part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205362-the-darkest-hour/#findComment-2451366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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