glider0880 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 240 Points, 6 Multi Meltas, Deepstriking. This obviously wont work in small point battles, but playing a mech force this could be brilliant! Seriously considering it... Pro's Con's before I buy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Are this 3 Speeders with 2 MM each? After deepstrike you can only shoot 3 of your 6 MMs. So not that great at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2450966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider0880 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Really, I never knew that, is it a deepstrike rule? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2450973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I really like them. I used to take Attack Bike's with MM... they are great, except against hordes when they are assaulted so easily. Landspeeders eventually became my goto fast attack. They are great against nids, he either spends a turn taking swings at your speeder (and not something else) or doesn't bother to assault it. There is no need to deepstrike at all. Just move (24"!!!!) flat out on turn one and get that 4+ cover save... then move up-to 12" next turn and shoot stuff. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2450986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burningblood Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Well thats 240 points- that you will loose on your opponent's next turn. So either you should definately take something very important out (Landraider equivilant) and make their points back or dont deepstrike them. I think if you're already going to spend the money(let alone points) on three landspeeders you should definately diversify the armament. It will make the squadron more useful to have a couple of assault cannons or heavy bolters thrown in there. just my two cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tame Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Really, I never knew that, is it a deepstrike rule? Deepstriking vehicules count as having moved at cruising speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozybonza Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I was thinking of drop pods + locator beacons with deepstriking MM/HF landspeeders. As you can only fire one weapon when you land, the MM/HF combo gives you the option depending on the situation. It also allows them to move 12" every turn and do something, reacting to battlefield requirements, rather than be stuck in one role (i.e. anti tank with MM/MM). I haven't tried this though - thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well the tidbit of info saved you a load of points! 3 squadroned Land Speeders deep striking with just the Multi Melta will certainly earn their points back against an army with at least one Land Raider in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorider2 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I like speeders, and 2 meltas can be nasty, but I prefer attack bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider0880 Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thanks guys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2451961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I prefer Baals. :snicker: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 So do I. :cry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 ye; me too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Baals are completely useless at taking out armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well, depends on the type of amour. Up to AV12 I would say the Baal is quite effective. For the real hard stuff you will need lots of meltas of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman_woo Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Baals are completely useless at taking out armour. eeerm...................................I assume you mean av13+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2452964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I believe that the proliferation of Baals in the current meta is going to be advantageous to those willing to go against the common opinion and use other fast attack choices to full effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2453055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I play against an opponent that routinely runs 2 mm speeders and 3 cml/hb combos...and yeah the cml/hb do the most damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205468-the-sheer-destructiveness-of-landspeeders/#findComment-2453146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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