Umoja Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Im painting a dark angels company master, and i seem to have a problem with the paint chipping off the metal very easily, is there some secret to stopping this from happening? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 A good varnish is the only real way to prevent this. Gloss is harder but shiny. A good way to deal with that is to put a coat of gloss on and then a coat of purity seal or any similar matt varnish. Afterwards you should find a lot less chipping occuring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2460833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 What primer are you using? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2460841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umoja Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 What primer are you using? Chaos black Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2461862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 As was said, the varnish is what keeps most of the chipping from happening. It could be something more basic like "be sure to wash your figs before priming to remove any residual oils", or "Use multiple thin coats of paint rather than thicker layers as thicker layers tend to chip more easily", but varnishing is probably the answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2461865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 What primer are you using? Chaos black There's your issue. CB is NOT a primer. It's not even a good spray paint. Use a proper primer. Auto primers are good, cheaper than GW sprays and cover very well, as well as giving a surface paint likes to adhere to. After you finish your paint job, apply TWO coats of varnish. GLOSS first. THEN matt (to take the shine away). The gloss gives protection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2462006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umoja Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 Alright cool thanks for the tips. This guy is over halfway done now so ill have to keep in mind to use different primer next time around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2462387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_R Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 If you’re using Games Workshop Chaos Black Primer Spray i.e -> http://www.wargamestore.com/Games-Workshop...-Can-p-837.html Then it should be perfect, remember atmospherics do affect outcome when priming, ideally you want to be priming on a warm day. Rain = Bad Your paints then attach itself to the primer, not the model. So the fact its metal or plastic is irrelevant. Next up you want to be using a reputable model varnish to protect your model and stop chipping and wearing. I personally prefer matte rather than glossy. Army Painter is decent but pricey, something like -> http://www.wargamestore.com/Army-Painter-4...Can-p-2030.html Again, as with priming you want to be applying 2 or 3 light coats...if your models will be seeing some serious ham fisted use then perhaps hit it with more varnish application. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2462396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCopy Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I would second Chromedog's post word for word as varnish is only half the battle... Also, let the gloss varnish layer dry over-night before spraying with matte/flat layer as some sprays tend not to react too well with other brands/types. If you live in the US, I highly recommend Krylon primers and spray varnish. As mentioned, thinner is better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2462950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker8 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 The biggest cause of chipping/flacking paint is not the "prime" coat no matter what people say. The main cause is failure to make sure the metal is free of mold release. With metal mini's I always recomend a quick scrub with some soapy water, or alchol before "priming". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2463929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah - using a nice bath of soapy water, followed by a good rinse gets rid of the residue and stops the paint from adhering to essentially an oil... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206268-question-about-painting-metal-models/#findComment-2464105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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