glider0880 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 JAWS OF THE WOLF WORLD ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! So, another friendly game, and yet another loss for me. Dear moi! So, the main reason I lost was from, as you may have guessed, the jaws of the wolf world power, used by a SW rune priest. Neatly removed, 4 Sanguinary gaurd and Dante for me, before any of them could do anything! So the whole idea, a little 'initiative test' for every man in a 24" line from the priest, and if you get higher than your initiative on a D6, boom! Remove the model from play, no saves, no invuns. Of course if you get a 6 anything dies, regardless of initiative (Dante). Is this allowed? Regards glider0880 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Yes, that's how the Rune Priest Jaws of the Wolf psyker power works. It sucks that Mephiston's psychic hood didn't work and then he failed his Initiative check. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Jump infantry are immune to JAWS. You were rooked. 0b :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider0880 Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 :devil: :jaw: :eek: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Jump infantry are immune to JAWS. You were rooked. 0b :devil: Yep. While Mephiston is at risk, Dante and Sanguinary Guard are immune. JOTWW lists who it can affect. Infantry, Bikes, Monsterous Creatures, cavalry, beasts. No Jump Infantry on the List. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 jump infantry and vehicles i think are the only things that aren't affected by the power... might be wrong I have never used it (there are better powers in the wolf dex imo). The line is drawn 24" from the rune priest. You need LOS to the first model it targets (the same as you would with any shooting attack) and the line then carries on. It will ignore terrain (even impassable) but it only operates at 'ground level'. Most places I've been to play hills as ground level but its your groups call. Anything under that line will then take an I test. Equal to or lower thanthe models I value and they are fine, higher (or a 6) and they die regardless of wounds, saves or any other funky rules (eternal warrior for example). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Gargantuan creatures are safe as well. 0b :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Gargantuan creatures are safe as well. 0b :) seeing as how you don't often find them in normal size games, or indeed a Blood Angels army list i didn't see the point in bringing that up... but yes, you are correct. You can also add super heavy vehciles to the list of things which are not harmed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I play in gladiator tournaments so it matters to me since they are allowed. 0b :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2461767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 You got screwed. I have only used JoWW in one tourament ever, and it proved not worth it. I switched to Tempest Wrath and Storm Caller now with much, much better results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 If you find yourself unlucky with your init rolls, stick in Corbs for that crucial mephiston Init reroll <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 If you find yourself unlucky with your init rolls, stick in Corbs for that crucial mephiston Init reroll <_< Mate you love Corbs...and yes his roll would have been a real saver for Memph. Seriously though, do you use Corbs in every match, I know he is amazing but do you get bored of him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 If you find yourself unlucky with your init rolls, stick in Corbs for that crucial mephiston Init reroll ;) Mate you love Corbs...and yes his roll would have been a real saver for Memph. Seriously though, do you use Corbs in every match, I know he is amazing but do you get bored of him? HAHHA !! BUSTED !!!!! Was it becoming that apparent ? ^_^ Yeah, in 85% of my lists and in 99% of my competitive lists. Im one of those people that will always play a priest with a power weapon. That means the difference between a regular priest and corbs is 40 points. For those 40 points I get that magic mulligan and 5x init6 rending attacks on the charge. I also get one more wound, and the best standard save in the game (meaning the unit with him that takes a wound will only suffer that wound 5% of the time). I do sound like a rampant corbs fanboy, but there are just too many useful things to use that dice for. Think about it this way for a quick sec - how many points would you pay for an ability to reroll any one dice? id pay between 15-20 at the very very very least. Everything else is bonus. However, I do acknowledge (and agree) that for armies that use "passive priests" (ie: priests that just hang back in vehicles/back of squads and buff) Corbs is not half as cool. I prefer my BA to be BA and kick ass along the way tho. edit: as to the bored question - The model that was designed for me is just so kick ass that Im never bored to see it on the field! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Id pay... 5pts. Just like I always used to ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Just thought of another way in which would help Memph avoid JOTWW. I think it is legal and it should work most of the time. Anyway Memph can cast a stack of psychic powers every turn, one of those being wings of Sanguinius. He shuold cast this power every turn as he closes in even if he does not need it. That way he counts as Jump Infantry. Pretty sure that it would work and be legal and not too tricky or unsportsmanlike. PS doe JOTWW work if the target is not visible? ie behind a landraider, rhino etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I think Jaws stops if it hits a vehicle, but can go through terrain. Wings only lets you move as jump infantry, casting it would have no affect on vulnerability to Jaws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Just thought of another way in which would help Memph avoid JOTWW. I think it is legal and it should work most of the time. Anyway Memph can cast a stack of psychic powers every turn, one of those being wings of Sanguinius. He shuold cast this power every turn as he closes in even if he does not need it. That way he counts as Jump Infantry. Pretty sure that it would work and be legal and not too tricky or unsportsmanlike. PS doe JOTWW work if the target is not visible? ie behind a landraider, rhino etc... That wouldnt work as it only works in your turn ( even if you use it as you suggest) it ONLY lets the model move as a Jump infantry , doesnt turn you into jump infantry , just like Tyranids tyrant unit with wings , they are still MC and not Jump infantry. Jaws have to see the First target the line touches , other wise doesnt work , and yes it goes through vehicles just not affecting them To the OP : doenst work on Sang guard , as many have pointed , and even if it did , your complaining about you have to make a 4- test ? thats like having to past a 3+ save .........and the fact you let the enemy target you in a line is a big nono in your part , as for using against Mr M , rolling a 6 to work..........and getting pass the hood..........right cause thats really broken... So i think Jaws is pretty useless unless vs nids / necrons and thats still very situational , and people should stop complaining about this so called " broken" power lol If you have to complain , you might want to check your dices , cuase you rolled 4 5+ and 2 6+ "saves" ........humm.........dice god favours you maybe too much ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofDeath11 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 JAWS OF THE WOLF WORLD ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! So, another friendly game, and yet another loss for me. Dear moi! So, the main reason I lost was from, as you may have guessed, the jaws of the wolf world power, used by a SW rune priest. Neatly removed, 4 Sanguinary gaurd, Dante and Mephiston for me, before any of them could do anything! So the whole idea, a little 'initiative test' for every man in a 24" line from the priest, and if you get higher than your initiative on a D6, boom! Remove the model from play, no saves, no invuns. Of course if you get a 6 anything dies, regardless of initiative (Dante, Mephi). Is this allowed? Regards glider0880 By God that would have sucked. It made me feel a little sick just reading it. Must be a little bit ammussing(infuriating???) now knowing that Dante and the Sang Guard would have been immune. Please beat them next time. I hate, and I mean hate, Space Wolves with a furious passion. Reading or hearing about BA losing to SW is enough to ruin a small part of my day. BTW people are dismissing JOWW but it seems like a pretty devastating power. I mean if you found some decked-out VGV's or HG lined up anywhere near a Rune Priest you could be in for a spoiler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2462865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 the things is, Jaws isn't anywhere near as powerful as most people think. Certainly not against BAs who have a high proportion of jump infantry. Far more dangerous is Tempests Wrath which would create a 48" bubble of dangerous terrain for any jump infantry/skimmers. Thats far more potent against BAs than Jaws will ever be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Has anyone used Dante's Mask to reduce a Runepriest to 1 wound? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Has anyone used Dante's Mask to reduce a Runepriest to 1 wound? I think i've used dante once only- and thats exactly what I did :) Its awesome considering every time they use a power they have a 1/18 chance of killing their model ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 :) I forgot that thing about Perils of the Warp! I had snipers in mind... Excellent idea! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 By God that would have sucked. It made me feel a little sick just reading it. Must be a little bit ammussing(infuriating???) now knowing that Dante and the Sang Guard would have been immune. Please beat them next time. I hate, and I mean hate, Space Wolves with a furious passion. Reading or hearing about BA losing to SW is enough to ruin a small part of my day. BTW people are dismissing JOWW but it seems like a pretty devastating power. I mean if you found some decked-out VGV's or HG lined up anywhere near a Rune Priest you could be in for a spoiler. 1) Grow up. 2) Pay attention. Your VGVs and HG should have jump packs, wich makes them immune to the power. Even if they arent, only a fool would knowingly line his men up at an angle to a marine player- SWs or no. Flamers are simply to prevalent, and it increases your vulnerability to blast weapons. I wont take Jaws in a competitive list, its just not worth it unless your running a second priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 JAWS OF THE WOLF WORLD ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! So, another friendly game, and yet another loss for me. Dear moi! So, the main reason I lost was from, as you may have guessed, the jaws of the wolf world power, used by a SW rune priest. Neatly removed, 4 Sanguinary gaurd, Dante and Mephiston for me, before any of them could do anything! So the whole idea, a little 'initiative test' for every man in a 24" line from the priest, and if you get higher than your initiative on a D6, boom! Remove the model from play, no saves, no invuns. Of course if you get a 6 anything dies, regardless of initiative (Dante, Mephi). Is this allowed? Regards glider0880 By God that would have sucked. It made me feel a little sick just reading it. Must be a little bit ammussing(infuriating???) now knowing that Dante and the Sang Guard would have been immune. Please beat them next time. I hate, and I mean hate, Space Wolves with a furious passion. Reading or hearing about BA losing to SW is enough to ruin a small part of my day. BTW people are dismissing JOWW but it seems like a pretty devastating power. I mean if you found some decked-out VGV's or HG lined up anywhere near a Rune Priest you could be in for a spoiler. Grow up......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2463204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Drinker Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 JAWS OF THE WOLF WORLD ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! So, another friendly game, and yet another loss for me. Dear moi! So, the main reason I lost was from, as you may have guessed, the jaws of the wolf world power, used by a SW rune priest. Neatly removed, 4 Sanguinary gaurd, Dante and Mephiston for me, before any of them could do anything! So the whole idea, a little 'initiative test' for every man in a 24" line from the priest, and if you get higher than your initiative on a D6, boom! Remove the model from play, no saves, no invuns. Of course if you get a 6 anything dies, regardless of initiative (Dante, Mephi). Is this allowed? Regards glider0880 By God that would have sucked. It made me feel a little sick just reading it. Must be a little bit ammussing(infuriating???) now knowing that Dante and the Sang Guard would have been immune. Please beat them next time. I hate, and I mean hate, Space Wolves with a furious passion. Reading or hearing about BA losing to SW is enough to ruin a small part of my day. BTW people are dismissing JOWW but it seems like a pretty devastating power. I mean if you found some decked-out VGV's or HG lined up anywhere near a Rune Priest you could be in for a spoiler. Seriously, thrash those wolves. I have great faith in your ability to do so with half your list not vanishing unfairly. Revenge is yours my brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206348-wondering/#findComment-2464077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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