Brother_Dan'l Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I've learned the joys of Honor Guard and am now putting together a second, cheaper, foot squad for regular gaming. These guys will generally run with a Librarian who uses Unleash Rage and Shield of Sanguinius. But I'm not really settled on how to equip them. :) So far I've got the Blood Champion, Sanguinary Novitiate and HG with Power Fist / BP finished. It's the other two guys that are giving me problems. Option 1) 2x Flamers and a Melta Bomb Option 2) Melta Gun and BP & Chainsword w/Melta Bomb Option 3) Lightning Claw and BP & Chainsword So what do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 My recommendation would be the meltagun one, but rather than give one guy a meltagun give the meltagun to the powerfist guy. Since neither the fist guy or the meltagun guy get +1 attack for 2 weapons, give those weapons to the same guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Dan'l Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 I was leaning toward the Melta to be honest. But, aside from aesthetic considerations, I don't like loading guys with multiple toys because of wound allocation. WHich is to say if have to put a single wound on him and three on everyone else, he'll fail. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 But when over loading things with points can make for awsome mini's Like my Flesh Tearers the chapter banner barer sure a fist a melta and the banner is alot of points but when it looks this awsome who am I to judge :lol: http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af31/Litany_of_hate/VOW%20COMPLETE/017.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Company banner bearer, sanguinary novitiate(why is he a novitiate? I don't want a novice to be my captains personal medic >.<), company champion. From there you have two guys to kit out however you like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Dan'l Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 One of them will have a backpack banner so I could add the Company Standard in games where I've got points to burn. But ya see my problem is what do I give those other two guys? With only 15 points in my list to split between the two of them I'm rather restricted. I love the idea of twin flamers, but I don't actually face too many opponents where they make more sense than the Melta Gun + Melta Bomb. And the Lightning Claw would be great, but a complete lack of any gun killier than a Bolt Pistol bothers me a little. Arrrgh! :lol: My plan to keep these guys at the same PV as the Furioso Librarian, just in case I want to field two FLs, is limiting me. But setting limits on specialist unit PVs is what's helps me field more troops (still only 26 at 2K) and that's been my greatest weakness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Don't have my codex on me, but I believe Unleash Rage gives preferred enemy correct? That would mean that maximizing CC attacks would make the most sense. I would just give out a power weapon then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I like the Blood Champion, the Nvoiate Priest and the Power fist combo (I like mine with a Stom Shield). I wold then go one or perhaps two with a melta gun. One of these too could take a chapter banner for more combat potential. Also think that the Libarian's powers suit well here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2493636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 It's really hard to figure out the best configuration for HG. Either way I think it's best to go either pure choppy. 0b <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Can the Sanguinary Novitiate take weapon upgrades? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Can the Sanguinary Novitiate take weapon upgrades? Nope; he is technically not an honour guard and therefore cannot grab extra gear...would be nice but no joy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volchek Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I equip mine like this: Novitiate 2 X Infernus Pistol + PW 2 X MeltaGun Jumpacks Excellent squad for killing tanks/Monstrous Creatures/enemy HQ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealadin Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 A single Melta is a waste, 2 is the minimum you want, although obviously more if your using SS or LC wouldnt be bad. The main thing you want to avoid is spending too many points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 That is a good build. Versatile. 0b :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Dan'l Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 I equip mine like this: Novitiate 2 X Infernus Pistol + PW 2 X MeltaGun Jumpacks Excellent squad for killing tanks/Monstrous Creatures/enemy HQ It's also 245 points. :) Even without Jump Packs it's 20 points more than what I'm looking to spend. Obviously I could go nuts and field a magically overpriced squad, but that's not what I'm looking to create. I don't want to give up RAS or VAS or anything else to create a dreadfully expensive squad who only benefits are 1) doesn't require a slot and 2) comes with built in SN. For 240 points I've already got a jump VAS-6 (Thunder Hammer & 2x Lightning Claws) and I wouldn't trade them for the Melta Guard on a bet. Welll... Maybe if I knew I was facing Nob Bikers or Nidzilla. Then I might, but otherwise I doubt it. Why don't I just open it up a bit and ask the question this way... "What's the best Honor Guard you can build, including the Blood Champion, for 175 points?" I'm strongly favoring the option 2 version from my first post. But if you can give me something better to work with I'll happily go with your concept. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 At your point limit, and taking into account the figures already built, I would lean towards this: Champion, fist, meltagun, flamer, novitiate (one of flamer or meltagun on the guy with the fist) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volchek Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes 245 points, except I put mine with Dante for Hit n Run. In my last game that little death star unit killed over 3 times their points cost and still had an IP + PW, the Novitiate, and Dante at the end of the game. And because of of the jumpacks they kited a couple of units. However I missed the part about limiting the unit to a certain points cost. My bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/209010-equipping-an-honor-guard/#findComment-2494991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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