Christian1138 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hi, I just wanted to ask: When is a figure painted in Table-Top Quality, when better? When does a mini start to be painted Table-Top Quality? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Depends on who you ask. In my view Table Top is normally base coat, 1 or two shades, one or two highlights, more than 3 colours on the model, and a sanded/flocked and painted base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Common tournament standard: - 3 colours - painted base Loose concept, the above AND: - at least 1 highlight - texturized base Hope it helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustmic Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 It is very subjective. However, I would say that tabletop quality has to do that it looks everything from "okey" to "real nice" when looking at the models from a distance (distance from your eyes while standing up to the models on the table). Now, if a model doesn't look anything worth mentioning while looking at from a foot or so then it is painted to a "tabletop quality". To go beyond "tabletop quality" you need to paint it more dynamically and more to perfection so as to make a difference when looking it from a foot or so. It will still, however, look about the same when on the table. My 2 cents. /gustmic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 If you can spot the features of the model and most of the details stand out and "make sense" from tabletop distance - that's table top standard in my view. For Space Marines, this would be a base coat in a coherent colour, metal parts metal, some shading to show the recessed areas apart from the raised areas, able to tell the shoulder pad rims from the rest of the pad etc. Under these definitions I would probably get a tabletop standard marine done in about 30-45 minutes in a batch... but I firmly do NOT paint TTS... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 If you can spot the features of the model and most of the details stand out and "make sense" from tabletop distance - that's table top standard in my view. For Space Marines, this would be a base coat in a coherent colour, metal parts metal, some shading to show the recessed areas apart from the raised areas, able to tell the shoulder pad rims from the rest of the pad etc. Under these definitions I would probably get a tabletop standard marine done in about 30-45 minutes in a batch... but I firmly do NOT paint TTS... Don't worry... you'll get there some day! :P Again, I'd separate tournament vs personal taste: Tournaments usually state their standard in their bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1138 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks for the fast reply. I am asking because I am painting my marines at the moment and wanted to see how i should go on painting. I usually take an hour or 2 for a marine sometimes less, depending how concentrated I am and how nice I want the model to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Best way to find out if a model it TTS... post a pic :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1138 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 I will as soon im finished with my tactical squad. 3 more marines to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2546636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1138 Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 Heres a link to my models as wished: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2547376 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2547381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I'd say those are better than average TTS, in fact those are quite nice - thumbs up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2547403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Those are pretty nice - though your sergeant has buckteeth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2548995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_array Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Just thought I'd toss my two cents in here, as 'table-top quality' is what I aim for. Table-top quality, in my mind, means that the miniature looks good from the game table to the players, usually a length around a meter or so. Closer inspection is going to reveal some flaws - most of my figures, for examples, don't have eyes painted. Eyes are something that I've never been able to do well, even with practice: however, using a wash on a miniature's face and not looking too closely can give the illusion of a shadowed face. Thus, the lack of definable eyes. This is also why you'll never see un-helmeted sergeants in my Marine force, either! Table-top quality is for the people who, like me (for better or for worse), are only concerned with the modeling enough to feel awkward with plastic-gray models on the base - which is unfortunate for me, since finding a good place to use spray paint on campus is difficult! Sure, I'll take a bit of time with the average marine, but my HQ units always get more attention to detail. The same could be said for the skirmish games I play - when I only have to paint 5 miniatures to play a full game, I can spend more time fully detailing the model. All-in-all, I believe 'table-top' quality to be between the two extremes of I-only-care-about-the-game-and-not-the-hobby players and the everything-I-do-must-be-up-to-Golden-Demon-standard hobbyists. In the end, an army still looks great when it looks like a coherent force, and table-top quality can easily achieve that. Edit: Grammar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2549740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisBC Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 yeah Christian's stuff a pretty good example of TTS - nice clean colours, everything painted, a couple of highlights/shading. Only prob is the bases aren't done! lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2549753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
novasminis Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 TTS standard for me would itself be split into two different levels. simple tabletop standard would be at least 3 colours, washed, power amour edged with a highlight, and on close inspection obvious mistakes. Advanced tabletop would have more colours, multiple washes, attention paid to detailing such as purity seals, eyes, power swords etc. Though still just edge highlighting. The difference in these is usually just down to the skill of the painter of the army. Once there is blending, highlighted details, NMM, directional lighting etc you've moved past TTS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213986-when-is-a-figure-table-top-quality/#findComment-2549895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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