Brother-Captain Lucius Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Right so i'm in the process of changing my list (again) afteri decided that while meph was good and soaked fire he wasn't adding much to the army. What i have decided to run with is an epistolary lib with Sword, Shield or Rage and a Jump Pack. The rest of the list is as follows: Sanguinor Librarian, Epistolary, Jump Pack RAS, 2 melta's, fist RAS, 2 Melta's, fist RAS (5), Meltagun Sanguinary Guard, Fist, 2 Infernus Pistols Sanguinary Priests (2), Jump Packs 2 Multi- Melta Attack Bikes Devastator squad, 3 missiles Devastator squad, 3 missiles. Plan would be for the lib to either run with the Sang Guard with shield or with an assault squad with Rage but cannot decide. Your thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanis Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I was really tempted to take the Epistolary myself when making my first few lists, but I had a hard time justifying the cost of that upgrade, and then more for a jump as well, at that point I would consider a Reclusiarch with a jump pack for the points in my eyes. I just feel it's too much for him to get to use only one more power a turn, without anything else for that much. However, it's up to the player to decide really. Best of luck deciding! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 The reason i dont have a reclusiarch is because i want some Psychic defense in the list as it will be an all rounder for a tourney and such Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurb Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Something about re-rolling S10 hits every turn tempts me greatly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpuppet Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Something about re-rolling S10 hits every turn tempts me greatly. This is the only reason i would take it. Its a bummer giving up shield but you gain much choppy powers. Also allows you to use your force weapon power if you have already used Sanguine Sword or whatnot. Mudpuppet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I would add the chapter banner to your SG and attach the Librarian and a Priest. Give the Librarian Unleash Rage and Sanguine Sword. That will be a real wrecking crew. 0b Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewielight Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I run with either shield/rage,fear/rage,or lance sword depending on who i am facing. I havent been disapointed with any of the powers (provided they go off). Fear has been a nice power I have been getting great luck with. Just depends on what you need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebanash Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 The only issue i find with spending 50 points, is either a) if you play eldar you get shutdown or ;) the return of it just isnt worth it. I find that having unleashed rage and shield/lance works just fine for me, and for the 50 points you can pick up another MM attack bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I only Epistolary up if a Storm Shield is in the mix. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Remember if you take Shield you dont need Epistolary Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 The upgrade is very expensive considering that you have no guarentee that the powers will work and that with a jump pack you are looking at a very expensive character that has no invuln.save and only two wounds with an initiative of 4. As samaNagol pointed out with shield and unleash rage you do not need to be an Epistolary. SHield works in your opponents turn and you cast unleash rage in your turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Well you can cast unleash rage every assault phase, but there would only ever be one phase in the entire game where you could feasibly need to cast both Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malatox Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I use a Librarian with Unleash and Shield. I make him an Epistolary just for the tactical safety incase I need to Force Weapon some fool to oblivion :o Malatox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulley Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I'd really only take if if you could get 2 per turn, 3 in your bank - i.e I could cast 2 but have a choice of 3. I find really that the shield and rage are both 2 important to drop in most games for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanfear Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 dont forget that you can use sword and your psi-weapon in the same turn with epistolary upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Or Sword & Rage. 0b :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 ^^ I've seen here a couple of times the 195 point TDA & stormshield Epostilary with URage & Sword recommended (by BO at least once). Probably the most sensible usage for a libby with a termie unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Assault Terminators w/ a SS+Termie-armored Epistolary Librarian.. SS+Rage... stick them in a Storm Raven. They get stuck in the second turn. Glorious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2556982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 I think I'll try out the Sword and rage epistolary for a bit then swap powers and see which is best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 The TDA Epistolary with Rage and Sword is probably the scariest combat booster unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 The only reason I would upgrade mine would be to be able to get off "Sword" and still use the force weapon if need be, considering that the circumstances of me doing that are rare then I would say it's a waste of points. I take shield and sword as my powers so never have to use more than one per turn anyway. Now if you face 'Nids or other monstrous creatures a lot I can see the point of the epostilary for the use of force weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 I do indeed face nids alot so thats where i think it can become very handy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well, in that case then I would say that it is worth the extra 50 points to wipe those monstrous creatures off of the table. Combined with the stregnth 10 from sanguin sword it could be fatal to the larger nids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 If i run a basic lib then i would add another missile to each dev team and a claw for each priest. Which i am also thikning about running now ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2557875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadieau Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I started with an Epistolary. For just 75 more points taking Mephiston is well worth it. But I am down to a regular Libby with Wings and Rage. I hope this will work out better for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214684-epistolary/#findComment-2558102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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