NExOBLIVISCARIS Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 What unit do you think is better for Blood Angels and why? (can be any varient of either) I'm leaning torwards three land speeders because. A. they can have magnatized wepons so they can fill many rolls depending on the situation B. they can get the speed cover save C.6 multi melta shots says alot to a person with a strange addiction to melta, lightning claws, and TDA :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus of Baal Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Attack bikes do comparable damage to vehicles (recall that all shots from a single squad are against the same target) for considerably fewer points. If you're going with the Land Speeders, I would recommend getting the missile launchers so that they can fill any role needed--I mean, you'll have to do something about the guys standing outside of the little metal box that you just popped open, yes? :D In spite of all that, though, it looks like what is best for you has alread been decided. Go for it, friend, and make Sanguinius proud! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 bikes/attack bikes are great at tarpitting things as well, not so much w/ speeders. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Attack bikes can get the turboboost cover save. I prefer attack bikes over speeders, they're cheaper and easier to hide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oloff Hammeraxe Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Land Speeders work better for me if they're by themselves. One 90 point model (heavy bolter and ML) is relatively low on an opponent's priority list, yet it can win it's points back with ease. On the other hand, 3 Land Speeders in a squadron would be too great of a target to pass up. You can wreck the crap out of them with bolters (since Immobilized = Wrecked, Glancing hits are much more dangerous), so if I were going the multiple models per unit approach, I would say that the Bikes win the day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Depends on your list. If you're heavy on the rhinos or razorbacks a LS base height would be of value if you choose to shadow the transports. Alternatively the bikes can hide comfortable behind said transports. In addition you get more weapons on the speeder. The bikes are still a great and versatile fire support platform with a low profile which is nice. 6MM on 3 speeders also says "SHOOT ME FIRST PLEASE!" not to mention the point cost. 70 points IIRC for a paper plane with two MM is not a great investment. I use both units in the same list but they have different roles. The MMAB hunt tanks/MC while the speeders with 3HB and a TML hunt infantry squads and light armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NExOBLIVISCARIS Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 if you have the FoC slots, would having 3 typhoons, each one in a seperate squad be good? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If you're comparing multi-melta platforms, then I'd always go with attack bikes. Anything else, and I'd go with speeders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I like speeders because you can dual purpose them with heavy flamer and multimelta for 70 pts. Works good vs. horde or anti tank and you can easily get them where you need them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Almost always bikes for me. Better saves, easier to hide and cheaper. When I was using speeders they would die so fast. I couldn't hide 'em behind terrain as everyone I played with would cry and moan about it. For goodness sake! The undersides have anti-grav plates and the back is full of thrusters and you say they can't change their elevation? Sorry, I'm still sore about it. :( :devil: Other than that speeders are way cooler looking! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I used to find that Speeders were marginally better with the Dual Role capacity. MM and HF. Now I find for cheap MM platforms it is hard to go past Attack Bikes, especially considering that they can get FNP and that makes them much more survivable from small arms fire. They can also turbo boost and attack foes at the other end of the board and Furious Charge can make them rather potent against lightly armed opponents. As others said Bikes are also easy to hide. Indeed the only time I think about getting my speeders out now is is with Apocalypse games or the odd Typhoon Speeder with HB; but at 90 points it is rather pricey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If you're comparing multi-melta platforms, then I'd always go with attack bikes. Anything else, and I'd go with speeders. I'll agree to this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216570-land-speeders-or-attack-bikes/#findComment-2582863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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