Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 guy / girls. if i fire the assault cannon on a landraider at a tank, POMS allows me to fire one more weapon than normally permitted at another target, so can I fire the assault cannon at another target ?I Have checked the codex with some friends doesn`t say you can`t. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 One more weapon, not one more shot from a weapon. As per normal rules for shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Doesn`t say another. says one more than normally allowed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Normally only allowed to fire a weapon once. once more than normally permitted means twice if i want can you all see my point? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 That doesn't follow normal rules for shooting. I saw where you were coming from. It also makes use of the sentence; this weapon can be fired at a different target to any other weapons. For you to be able to fire a weapon twice, the rule would need to specifically state it as it's not in-line with the 'normal rules for shooting' statement within the rule. *click me*Official rules thread. Ask it in here if you want more people's opinions on the matter.*click me* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 it does though buy saying one more than permitted doesnt say it has to be a diff weapon, and because says one more than permitted and doesn`t say another weapon no rule or FAQ says you cant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It says to follow normal rules for shooting which means one shot per weapon. that's the part you can't get around and even if you did somehow, the syntax of the sentence I quoted (this weapon can be fired at a different target to any other weapons.) still says it must be a different weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 says at a diff target not a diff weapon you must see my point even checked a dictionary to try and prove the loop hole wrong but couldn`t Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsolom Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't think this is how it was intended to be used tbh, but I can see your point. I just don't agree with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 i know it prob shouldt be used like that but is indeed a legal loop hole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i know it prob shouldt be used like that but is indeed a legal loop hole. There is no such thing as a "legal loop hole". Nothing personal, but I hate people that try to argue stupid stuff like this and I pity the people that have to play you. RAW: "Therefore, a vehicle that has moved at combat speed can fire two weapons..." page 37 Blood Angels Codex Nice try though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 This is illogical. The vehicle may fire one more weapon than normally permitted. One more means one entirely separate weapon on the tank complete with its own profile and abilities if any. Splitting a single weapon's fire is not permitted anywhere in any rulebook or codex. The only exception I am aware of is firing weapons in Killteams. In Killteams a model is permitted to fire at multiple targets. For example, a space marine with heavy bolter may engage one target per shot in the weapon's profile. Three shots => three targets. Firing a weapon twice is also not allowed unless explicitly specificed. Such entries include the C:CSM dreadnought Fire Frenzy rule. Each sponson or cupola mount is a weapon. These weapons have an attack profile on them describing the number of shots and at what range. If you choose to fire a weapon you fire the number of shots listed or not at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 We don't need both this thread and the OR version. As this is not a BA specific issue, I'll close this one and we can have the discussion there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216621-rule-question-for-blood-angels/#findComment-2583590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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