advice on speeder spam.

[TheMouth]

My friend is playing BA as well, since its the new "power army" and that I kept slapping his nilla marine razorback spam...but his latest "uber list" consists of 6 speeders that sit in the back and fire, while having a librarian give them "shield", as well as 6-7 razorbacks ( assault/devs), 2 priests ( one in terminator armour that sits back with 3 dev squads ), 1 more librarian with the razorbacks.

 

So how does one pop 6 speeders ( cyclone/h.bolter ) plus 6 razorbacks ( 3 twin linked las, the rest are assault cannons)

 

What would you guys take against this list?

 

I am interested in hearing what you would bring and why.

 

My thoughts are, dev squad with lascannons, 2 dreads with las/missile/dakka, tac squad with h.bolter ( i have the most luck with that thing and destroying speeders )

 

Maybe a deep striking land raider? -_-

 

I forgot to mention points. 2.5k.

[Glendor]

What points level is it?

[bulley]

First off whats your list that you typically play?

 

I'd just play my normal list - plenty of preds in a AV13 screen w/ Shield covering them is going to mitigate a lot more than his 5++ AV10.

[Mezkh]

What models do you have, what points is it, and what are the razorbacks armed with?

 

With the squadrons generally you want to shoot your multi-shot weapons first. The squadron rules are particularly annoying and you want to avoid your opponent stacking putting pen hits on the an already beaten up speeder.

[bulley]

Also you dont want to build a list just to beat his, its better to work out how to beat it with your list. That certainly is not a impervious list to everything - squadron'd speeders drop like flies on the tables around me, even with 5++.

[TheMouth]

I will repeat myself.

 

I am interested in what you would take and why.

 

I know how to beat this list, I have in the past, I make all my lists as all comers lists. But I am looking for other options other peoples input and what they believe is a good run.

 

Also you dont want to build a list just to beat his, its better to work out how to beat it with your list. That certainly is not a impervious list to everything - squadron'd speeders drop like flies on the tables around me, even with 5++.

 

 

this is where you post up what you run in your army to beat speeders. :)

[BOBMAKENZIE]

land raiders. Wut Cyclones not so good now? :)

[the jeske]

6 RAs with razros 3x5 devs and 6 LS +2 HQ libbies thats what 2500 right ?

shouldnt you be runig AC baals and/or rifle man dreads they do good agaist all class of skimers . + at 2500 you can realy fit more or less anything in to the list. a lot meq list play with 2LR or some sort of an alfa strike group[10 man sterns combat squading etc]. To have problems dealing with speeders you would have to play on a 6x6 table with city fight cover set up or a DOA army , but no one plays those at 2500 . So I kind of a dont get what the problem is here.

[Mezkh]

Okay 2.5k points, plenty to play with then.

 

Shoot them with Lascannons. at 90 points a speeder it's a good trade.

[Ozybonza]

Rifleman dreads will be good against that list.

 

Mind you, I run 5 Landspeeders in my BA list and I find them to be the worst part of the list (the rest are RAS and priests). They are actually my "comp" concession (I'm in Australia where virtually every tournament has a comp component). It's not that they're terrible, it's just that they are pretty easy to kill with virtually any long range heavy weaponry.

[BrotherTim]

I would use 3 Rifleman Dreads, 2 10 man Tacs w/ LC and MG in Land Raiders (combat squaded), 2 Baal Preds, 1 Libby, and flesh it out with RAS in Las/Plas backs. His light armor will crumble to the massive firepower, he will have a hard time cracking your Raiders, and you could add a few SP to boost your CC ability... Done

[JamesI]

I've cleaned up some of this thread. Hopefully it can continue with constructive posting.

 

Brother Tim and Ozybana suggest what I would do if I was making a list specific to fight this. Rifleman dreads, perhaps some missile launcher devs and my own speeders.