curant Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 So i was just reading and thinking about it... according to the story 1000 years before the black legion attack subsector aurelia kyras imprisoned ulkair... several centuries later he appears and returns to the chapter. that makes him at minimum 1200 years... then given he was powerful enough to imprison ulkair albeit a wounded ulkair he's likely another 200 years old minimum.... makes him at very minimum 1400 years old.... beats dante doesnt it? or does demonic possession make it not count? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Rik Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Iirc, isn't Dante 3000 years old? Or am I way off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodied_fist Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Dante has only been leading the Blood Angels for 1100 years..... we don't know how long he has been a member of the Chapter. Â Â And i wouldn't count Daemonic Possession, but that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Besides Kyras was trapped on that Space Hulk for Emperor only knows how long, time flows differently in the Warp so he's probably not that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 He'd be super old in linear time, but his biological age would still be way less than 1K years. Dante has been actively serving as Chapter Master for 1K+ biological years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeMeister Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 He'd be super old in linear time, but his biological age would still be way less than 1K years. Dante has been actively serving as Chapter Master for 1K+ biological years. Â Are there any pictures of Dante's face or other features? Â As for Kyras, I doubt he's that old biologically to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Are there any pictures of Dante's face or other features? Â The last time we saw Dante without his Death mask, it was in the Blood Quest comic series, and in that he was shown as fairly young-looking, with long dark hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Lysander's done the same, not to mention the really old dude from Salamander (to not spoil anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) dante has led the chapter for 1100 years, he could be a couple of hundred years older than this.. but veteran sergeeant cleutin is much older than Dante, serving as his scout sergeant.. this must put Cleutin at least 100 years older than Dante.. and i suspect more in the region of 1500 to dantes 1300 ish  old dude from Salamander Wasnt he given the emperors peace? Edited March 1, 2011 by greatcrusade08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Dawn of War isnt real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 lol. also nowhere have i seen it that dante is eventh oldest blood angel, reinforced by clutin, though he may be dead. nevr mind 13th co and bjorn and potentially the sanguinator. or that many chaos marines have been there since the heresy. nevermind many many dreadnaughts. so even if so whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helfyre Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Dawn of War isnt real. Â Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Dawn of War isnt real. Â Good Grief I need a life, I momentarily searched for the "Like" button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Dawn of War isnt real. Â Good Grief I need a life, I momentarily searched for the "Like" button. Don't worry so did I >.< *like* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Dawn of War have some fluff mistakes. But a Space Marine being very old ins't one of them, the thing is Warp Space travel(which he was stuck for years inside the Judgment of Carrion) doens't count to his age. Â Oh, and pretty much most fictional universes aren't real. That includes 40K. Â Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Rik Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'm sure I remember reading somewhere, probably some old BA fluff, that Dante was the oldest living marine, save for Bjorn, who is a dreadnought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'm sure I remember reading somewhere, probably some old BA fluff, that Dante was the oldest living marine, save for Bjorn, who is a dreadnought. Â except for cleutin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 dante has led the chapter for 1100 years, he could be a couple of hundred years older than this.. but veteran sergeeant cleutin is much older than Dante, serving as his scout sergeant.. this must put Cleutin at least 100 years older than Dante.. and i suspect more in the region of 1500 to dantes 1300 ish  I agree with the logic, but there is no way Dante took command of the Blood Angels with only 200 years service under his belt, especially amongst the longest lived bloodline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 although theres new fluff hat some of the ba dread piolets were at te seige of terra apparently... but noone ever counts dreadnaughs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Dawn of War isnt real. Â This. Â Also I think when it comes to oldest serving space marine they take in account if said person has been lost in the warp for x amount of years or interred inside a Dreadnought which is a state of both living and dead which doesn't count. Â Dante is the Oldest serving marine out there as he has never been lost or trapped in the warp for what fluff we have for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahotsu Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 You mean there's an inconsistency in the fluff involving WH40k? wow, really, you don't say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trel Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I don't know that there's really anyway to tell anyone's "true" age in the era of Warp travel. Let's say you're twenty years old, you travel in the Warp for three weeks. When you arrive at your destination, it's a year later in real-time from when you started. Are you now twenty years old plus three weeks, or are you twenty-one? Â Consider that Marines spend a lot of time travelling in the Warp, they can build up huge discrepancies over their lifetimes. So Dante could have just been "born" 1100+ years ago, but he may have only actually "lived" five hundred years, due to the vagaries of Warp travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 dante has led the chapter for 1100 years, he could be a couple of hundred years older than this.. but veteran sergeeant cleutin is much older than Dante, serving as his scout sergeant.. this must put Cleutin at least 100 years older than Dante.. and i suspect more in the region of 1500 to dantes 1300 ish  I agree with the logic, but there is no way Dante took command of the Blood Angels with only 200 years service under his belt, especially amongst the longest lived bloodline.  Calgar was around 100, its not too far fetched.. longest lived doesnt mean immortal, casualties still happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Nor does length of service over-rule aptitude. Dante was probably fast-tracked for command as soon as his tactical nous was recognised and promoted in line with his capabilites as he developed them. Marines, as a general rule, do NOT promote by seniority. They have learnt that mere age does not a good leader make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 nevermind that the blood angels chapter wasry low on numbers when dante took the reins... when theres not much to choose from, 100 years could make a big difference? what are we talking about again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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