Master of fact Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Im trying to get the Dark Angel story straight in my head. There are conflicting stories surrounding them, the only things iv read are the Horus Heresy books and the newest dex. Can someone generous give me a basic run down or kick in the right direction? Trying to figure out id DA turned chaos or not/nearly. Im even confusing myself now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The DA Codex gives the 'official' version -- I'm not sure what's confusing -- the Codex is pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 You can also read Index Astartes (vol. I) for complementary information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Do you have specific questions for which we can provide clarification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of fact Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 I do but im sure they have been covered somewhere. Was the Lion touched by chaos but turned away? The codex is clear, DA are the first of the emperors space marine's. What other books can i read to get an idea about Luthor ect. Sorry in a rush my kids are doing my head in...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razhbad Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Luthor appears quite a in Descent of Angels and Fallen Angels they seem to be the best fluff for Luthor Himself. As for falling to Chaos i am not certain, perhaps some did, but most fallen i have come accross dont seem to be Chaos Marines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 As said above, check Index Astartes if you can. In short, Lion'el was away from home doing his work, got back and found Luther had been corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtriX Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 In general, most of the fluff pieces of Lion'el being tempted by chaos is either fanfic or accounts of fallen angels (and they aren't exactly trustworthy). It's often based on the time it took him to get to Terra during the siege and many feel that he waited to see who would win. But nothing official hints to Lion'el being corrupted or tempted by chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 It's often based on the time it took him to get to Terra during the siege and many feel that he waited to see who would win. Funny thing about that is the fact that Jonson did not travel back alone, he returned from a campaign with Russ... Hence if Jonson had been late because he was "waiting", then Russ is guilty too... Since nobody blames Russ for arriving late, then there's no reason to blame Jonson as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtriX Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 It's often based on the time it took him to get to Terra during the siege and many feel that he waited to see who would win. Funny thing about that is the fact that Jonson did not travel back alone, he returned from a campaign with Russ... Hence if Jonson had been late because he was "waiting", then Russ is guilty too... Since nobody blames Russ for arriving late, then there's no reason to blame Jonson as well I know but I think that other chapters have it in for us since we're obviously so much better :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The reason I remember reading some where years ago was that Johnson convinced Russ to stop at worlds along the way and help out those worlds in revolt, maybe it was a destress call. Johnson's argument was that if they don't help these worlds there might not be anything left to save of the empire even if they do make it back to earth in time. Russ on the other hand wanted to ignore it all and drive straight on to earth, feeling that they needed to stand with their father in the last battle. Russ blames Johnson for missing out on the final battle, but fails to accept that he agreed to help the worlds on the way, when he could have easily left Johnson and headed to earth with his own troops. Where the question comes up about loyalty, is because the two forces at earth were evenly matched, and had either side gained one more legion it would have tipped the scale. So we question who wasn't there and why. And all we get is Russ whining that he wanted to be there, but Johnson held him up. Although from a kharma perspective Johnson lost both of his homes due to lack of determined drive to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The reason I remember reading some where years ago was that Johnson convinced Russ to stop at worlds along the way and help out those worlds in revolt, maybe it was a destress call. Johnson's argument was that if they don't help these worlds there might not be anything left to save of the empire even if they do make it back to earth in time. Russ on the other hand wanted to ignore it all and drive straight on to earth, feeling that they needed to stand with their father in the last battle. Russ blames Johnson for missing out on the final battle, but fails to accept that he agreed to help the worlds on the way, when he could have easily left Johnson and headed to earth with his own troops. Where the question comes up about loyalty, is because the two forces at earth were evenly matched, and had either side gained one more legion it would have tipped the scale. So we question who wasn't there and why. And all we get is Russ whining that he wanted to be there, but Johnson held him up. Although from a kharma perspective Johnson lost both of his homes due to lack of determined drive to get home. You got that back to front. It was Jonson, who, with his tactical and strategic acuen, wanted to head straight to terra. However, Russ, with his honour bound tendency to help loyalists in trouble, insisted in liberating some worlds on the way. There was some tacticakl reasoning there too, in order to replenish their fleets from those worlds. This is old fluff... Jonson then blamed Russ for getting to Terra too late.... However all this is being re written in great detail with the Horus Heresy series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Oops. Well it was almost 15 years ago when I read that. At least I got the players right :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 We want fluff citation on that or it didnt happen :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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