Grandmaster Anaziel Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Every Dark Angels character is Fearless. The Deathwing is completely fearless. Grey Knight Terminators are not Fearless. Paladins are not Fearless. Even the Supreme Grandmaster Kaldor Draigo is not Fearless! In conclusion, The Lion's bloodline ROCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvendragon Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I'm pretty sure we all came to this understanding on the first day. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrionTheImp Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I found the change from Fearless to ATSKNF to be odd for Grey Knights. One would think that a force dedicated to the fighting of daemons would be Fearless. Now if only we could get 2 wound terminators only let ours have storm shields, then we could reclaim our rightful place as the premiere terminator fighting force in the galaxy. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-wrex Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 In conclusion, The Lion's bloodline ROCKS! Except for that whole 'half the legion going traitor' thing :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 SiLENCE! You must be purged so that you never speak of this again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 In conclusion, The Lion's bloodline ROCKS! Except for that whole 'half the legion going traitor' thing :) I believe the sentiment voiced in Purging of Kaladus is something like "Only a chapter that came so close to turning traitor can know the true value of loyalty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-wrex Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 In conclusion, The Lion's bloodline ROCKS! Except for that whole 'half the legion going traitor' thing :rolleyes: I believe the sentiment voiced in Purging of Kaladus is something like "Only a chapter that came so close to turning traitor can know the true value of loyalty" Kind of like how only a slave can know freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 In conclusion, The Lion's bloodline ROCKS! Except for that whole 'half the legion going traitor' thing ;) At least they weren't afraid to do it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Funny how people keep saying 1/2 the DA chapter turned traitor. Easy to say that when the Primarch wasn't around when it happened. Everyone was fallowing Luther who was on the planet (be it Calbinites or Earth Humans) so they were doing what thier leader told them too. How many of those DA were really following Choas? How many of them were only fallowing thier orders as they were trained to do? So if they were following orders have they really turned to Chaos? Just like when you are in the army, are you really evil for following orders? So it is not like by choice they really turned to Chaos but tricked into it. I am sure alot of them refused to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Stacius Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yes we are more courageous. Easily so as we don't resort to mindwiping people. And how do we still know that half the legion follow Chaos? Cypher may be seeking forgiveness, and I personally hope that occur's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Well of course were more courageous, however... All Marines are technically fearless in fluff, hence ATSNKF. But, talking game mechanics, I can almost see the Fearless USR as being an over the top form of stubborn. So maybe it's just a bad name for that USR. The Grey Knights, like many other Marines - even our own, fall back to regroup and fight again for a tactical reasons - not out of fear - whereas our Deathwing and commanders stubbornly refuse to and rightly so (of course C:SM can choose to fall back, taking it a step further). Where the Sons of Guilliman, and those that ascribe to such teachings, are tactically flexible in the field, the Sons of the Lion focus on the overall strategy and big picture, and falling back is not in that battle plan for our most hardened units. They are certainly taking the field in the most dire of situations anyway, when falling back is not an option to begin with. Yet obviously there is no need to fall back when we have have already implemented the winning game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Even the Supreme Grandmaster Kaldor Draigo is not Fearless! I'm pretty sure a few of the GK characters are, in fact, Fearless- Draigo, Crowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Neo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 So if they were following orders have they really turned to Chaos? Just like when you are in the army, are you really evil for following orders? having served in the army, your superior officers would prefer you to have a mind of your own and if something is wrong to voice your concerns and if necessary refuse to do it. i would like to think that although marines are trained to follow orders that they would still know the difference from right and wrong and would stand up for justice in the name of the lion and the emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Us Black Templars are also fearless, and hold grudges :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Neo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 grudges over something that you say happened when no records show it? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 grudges over something that you say happened when no records show it? :blink: Keep in mind, we have an endless crusade against the enemies of the Emperor, and we have had no Space Marines turn renegade :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Neo Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 renegade? i dunno what your talkin 'bout :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG42 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 grudges over something that you say happened when no records show it? :lol: Keep in mind, we have an endless crusade against the enemies of the Emperor, and we have had no Space Marines turn renegade ;) Actually since the creation of the Black Templars, neither have the DA. That other stuff is just rumors. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Anaziel Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Actually Draigo, Crowe and the Purifiers are Fearless. -facepalm- But still, their Terminators are not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyustukyi Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 grudges over something that you say happened when no records show it? :whistling: Keep in mind, we have an endless crusade against the enemies of the Emperor, and we have had no Space Marines turn renegade :P Actually since the creation of the Black Templars, neither have the DA. That other stuff is just rumors. ;) True but you still have renegades *cough* fallen *cough*. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG42 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 grudges over something that you say happened when no records show it? :tu: Keep in mind, we have an endless crusade against the enemies of the Emperor, and we have had no Space Marines turn renegade :P Actually since the creation of the Black Templars, neither have the DA. That other stuff is just rumors. ;) True but you still have renegades *cough* fallen *cough*. Just saying. Just rumors, like the missing Templar ship.....just saying...lol. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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