Jim Shady Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Ok, we know Fulgrim and Ferrus fought, Corax nearly killing Lorgar, The Lion and Russ fighting, then Russ and Magnus, Dorn and Curze and Horus killing Sanguinius BUT what fights would be interesting with the other Primarchs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiana Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 personally i'd be pretty interested to see roboute gulliman get some manner of revenge against lorgar. And the same for Dorn against Curze. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 There are also accounts about how Guilliman fought against Alpharius and later Fulgrim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 And the same for Dorn against Curze.I highly doubt that Dorn would want to be that situation again..given his fear (yes fear) of Konrad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Uhh his fear was of what was causing Horus to turn and that he may find cause in it.. Or did I listen to the audio book wrong? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 maybe if dorn and konrad fought again it would be a fight, rather than one guy ambushing his brother. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 What about The Khan v Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Curze would beat Dorn however many fights they have :drool: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernangelofdeath Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Angron Vs. Russ or Lorgar Vs. Horus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Angron Vs. Russ or Lorgar Vs. Horus Horus would beat down Lorgar. Russ and Angron would be close with Angron coming out on top. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I would love to see Guilliman beat Lorgar, bounce him around and crush him.... Also Sanguinius to destroy Horus too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Uhh his fear was of what was causing Horus to turn and that he may find cause in it.. Or did I listen to the audio book wrong?Maybe give it a rerun. :drool: 'Rogal, he is what you are truly afraid of, because he is fear incarnate. No other primarch uses terror as a weapon like Curze does. You are not afraid of Horus and his sallow heretics. You are afraid of the fear that sides with him, the night terror that advances alongside the traitors'. Dorn sat back and breathed out 'He has haunted me, I confess. All this time, he has haunted me'. 'Because he was right, his visions were true. He saw this Heresy coming in his visions. That is the truth you fear. You wish you had listened.' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 To me that doesn't mean Dorn feared Curze for what he did to Dorn but he feared his visions and that he was right.. Hard to explain. There is also this earlier quote that shows Dorn is'nt afraid of any of them... ‘I do not fear anyone. Not Horus, not Fulgrim, none of them. I fear the cause. I fear the root of their enmity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 It seems to me that Magnus should come out on top against any of the primarchs...... I know he had a fight vs Russ but there was a huge element of him wanting to lose in the whole battle for Prospero. Although Im not sure as to what level of psychic resistance the primarchs have... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 It seems to me that Magnus should come out on top against any of the primarchs...... I know he had a fight vs Russ but there was a huge element of him wanting to lose in the whole battle for Prospero. Although Im not sure as to what level of psychic resistance the primarchs have... I think they did have psychic potential. I think it's mentioned in the First Heretic that Lorgar has a little, Russ does A Thousand Sons when the loud wolf howl hurts quite a few of the Thousand Sons. Corax could make people not notice him so I suppose that is a psychic power. Not sure about the other Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Aside from Horus, Magnus comes across as the Emperors favoured son....... in fact he knows more about the universe than all of his brothers combined. Magnus = Serious bad ass!! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2727788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 To me that doesn't mean Dorn feared Curze for what he did to Dorn but he feared his visions and that he was right.. Hard to explain. There is also this earlier quote that shows Dorn is'nt afraid of any of them... ‘I do not fear anyone. Not Horus, not Fulgrim, none of them. I fear the cause. I fear the root of their enmity. Oh no no no, Dorn is scared stiff of Konrad Curze in Every sense of the word. Even as Malcador simply layed out the cards once used by the Night Haunter Dorn " opened his mouth, but no sound issued. Fear gripped him." He was so rent with terror that he was visibly pale and Malcador could see it so well. Now, as for your quote about 'i dont fear any of them' I would like for you to note that when Dorn begins to evaluate each of his traitor brothers, he so conveniently skipped the primarch of the Night Lords Legion. Even Malcador asked Dorn when he shows him the cards 'Have you forgotten him, or simply blocked him out.' He is afraid of Curze, have no doubt about that but Dorn is even more terrified of Curze because he symbolizes Dorns failures both physically and mentally. Physically is how Curze nearly killed him and could have finished him off but was spared only because Curze allowed him to live. However mentally, he is scared because Konrad Curze, the primarch who was complete anathema to all Rogal Dorn stood for and believed, was right ALL along. Dorn is a failure in every sense of the word and the Night Haunter is the living reminder of that and that scares Dorn to the marrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjace Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 you guys are forgetting the most epic fight of all time!!!! HORUS V DORN LUNA WOLVES V IMPERIAL FISTS! UNSTOPABLE FORCE V IMMOVABLE OBJECT! :) :P :eek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Please. Dorn and his petty fists would crumble beneath the Might and cunning of Horus in a matter of days. Angron vs. Magnus, two complete opposites going head to head. Now that, I gotta see :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 now needling primarchs is fun and all, but i think the NL fans are dismissing Dorn a bit too easily. if they had a brawl, a straight up fight, then i would bet on Dorn. if it was a battle playing to Curze's strengths, mass psychology, then i would bet on Konrad. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 In a straight up fight, Curze tore Corax a new hole in TFH and Curze was obviously just toying with him. That being said if Curze can do that with Corax, I'm pretty positive he will make ammends for his mistake in round two and finish Dorn off for good. (being a Night Lord player has nothing to do with my view point Kieran. I'm also a Black Templar player but Curze is still going to kick Dorn's ass no matter how you slice it. Dorn is known for siege warfare, not being some kind of excellent warrior.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texpef Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Angron vs magnus would be a good match unless of course magnus unleased his full power not sure even Angron could stop that... Russ however has some psychic ability and prob could.. Russ vs Angron well wouldnt be quite so quick to dismiss... Russ is the primark of the SM military police afterall and remember they get send to "sanction with extreme prejudice" other SM legions remember... :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Russ vs Angron was always something interesting. They are pretty similar when it comes to combat prowess though I think Angron would eventually win. I also want to see Alpharius (the real Alpharius) vs anyone. I want to see how he really fights in single combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiana Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 In a straight up fight, Curze tore Corax a new hole in TFH and Curze was obviously just toying with him. That being said if Curze can do that with Corax, I'm pretty positive he will make ammends for his mistake in round two and finish Dorn off for good. (being a Night Lord player has nothing to do with my view point Kieran. I'm also a Black Templar player but Curze is still going to kick Dorn's ass no matter how you slice it. Dorn is known for siege warfare, not being some kind of excellent warrior.) Having just finished TFH i can assure you Curze did certainly not own Corax. Corax was jsut about to give the final blow to Lorgar before Curze blocked the strike. Corax correctly chose to fall back rather than face TWO of his brother primarchs. As Lorgar was already healing from the Lightning claw through his chest, as curze stated. Coraxs' legion was being slaughtered all around him, he quite understandably had more priorities then trying to fight two of his brothers. The only two primarchs stated to be better than corax in combat are horus, sanguinius and angron. (Quoted in ravens flight) But with any of these topics it simply falls down to people fighting the corner of their favourite primarchs :) there's no way to know until a particular author sits down and writes down his opinion, then we have to take it as the official fluff lol. I think anything of the lesser written primarchs such as vulkan and kahn would be a good read for all of us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Russ vs Angron well wouldnt be quite so quick to dismiss... Russ is the primark of the SM military police afterall and remember they get send to "sanction with extreme prejudice" other SM legions remember... :) That in itself doesnt mean anything really..... it just means the Emperor trusted them...... like you say they were kind of the police. But even then it was hinted at in Prospero Burns that the confrontation on Prospero had been engineered by Horus himself. The Space Wolves were just pawns. Space Wolves = Fighters World Eaters = Murderers Thats the basic difference....... do you trust a load of murderers to do the policing job?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227687-primarch-v-primarch-round-1-fight/#findComment-2728184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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