kharn_the_betrayer Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 In the book Nemesis we saw the secret war being waged on both sides and although Spear was a great evil assassin, but I am a little surprised we aren't looking at a schism between the assassins like we did with the Mechanicum. Was there a split between the assassins for each faction like the other sides (Astartes Legions, Mechanicum, Army etc.)? Do you think this will be covered at all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 interesting thought, I haven't thought of somehting like that. It' seems that both sides had their assassins (like spear) but Horus declared that he would not make use of it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2760549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I haven't read "Nemesis", but I assume that the Assassins were held largely away from the Legiones Astartes, so Horus/Erebus would not necessarily have been able to get to them, or may not even have known of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2760561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 As others have said, the Assassins weren't public at the time. Remember, even Dorn didn't know much about them until the events in the novel, and the Temples were small enough that any insurrection could be cut off quickly, before it could spread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Gladius Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I think Horus once corrupted and on his travels across space would have encountered enough skilled loyal (to him) killers to form his own cadre of assassins. It doesnt say anywhere how large a force of assassins he could deploy, or how well organised they are compared to the temples. He may just have two or three individuals he can call upon. If other traitor legions had similar individuals (you can bet alpharious had them) then he wouldnt have needed the temples, and it wasnt worth the effort of infriltrating terra to get at them. The temples may never have been divided, much like the custodes wernt, as they were so secluded in their organisational set up. Just my own two cents Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Adam Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I don't think the assassins would defect to Horus, in the book there was way too much talk of devotion and duty an purpose for the emperor. I think they would have disbanded before turning sides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Look who the master of assassins was. They were never going to turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Terra Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Look who the master of assassins was. They were never going to turn. I'm sure plenty of people said something along the lines of 'Look who his father is. Horus would never turn'. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Ah, but thats different. Somehow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I see the temples as small legions As long as the master (primarch) doesn't fall then the temple (legion) doesn't fall. One or two might have gone rouge, but they would have been dealt with by their peers Also, wasn;t there some fluff in codex assassins about the temples being formed by individuals who wanted to help the Emperor and would do what was needed, even if He couldn't order it. I can see that giving greater loyalty than the bond some of the Primarchs had with Him. The Primarchs had to be loyal because He was Daddy The assassins masters chose to be loyal because they wanted to help him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 There was an assassin war. I recall there being mention of it in the Codex: Assassins back in 3rd edition. Virus bombs, vibroblades, all that. Basically half of the assassins were on the side of Chaos, the other, Imperial. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 There was an assassin war. I recall there being mention of it in the Codex: Assassins back in 3rd edition. Virus bombs, vibroblades, all that. Basically half of the assassins were on the side of Chaos, the other, Imperial. If I remember correctly, that was post-heresy but I can't remember the name of the war........... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornsval Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 There was an assassin war. I recall there being mention of it in the Codex: Assassins back in 3rd edition. Virus bombs, vibroblades, all that. Basically half of the assassins were on the side of Chaos, the other, Imperial. This is the problem with most of GW's fluff. Always half of something betrays. The Astartes,The titan legions, The mechanicum. Dont get me wrong i love all the fluff,but sometimes it seems like amatuer hour when it comes to developing the backstory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2761903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The Assassin War was during the Age of Apostasy, caused by the rampant assassinations of high-ranked Imperial officials, including High Lords, and led to the formation of the Ordo Sicarius. It wasn't during the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229927-fallen-assassins/#findComment-2762127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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