sioka Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Simple stuff here folks this thread is just to see what everyone thinks of the new Finecast resin. Please just list the following :- Item Price Pictures Good points Bad points Score out of 10 Personal opinion (please keep it short) Here is my example Citadel Finecast Huron Blackheart Price :- £10.50 Positives :- Loads of fine detail Very light No pitting Little or no mould lines Picture for reference on the blister Negatives :- Air bubles (seem to be in areas of detail such as ribbed tubing and skulls) Vents in places of high detail Warped peices (some of these can probably be adjusted) Some areas missing Some parts snapped off Why am I paying more for this?? Score out of 10 :- 6 Still lots of prep work needed and a moderate level of sculpting skill to get the most out of this kit, I feel a lower price would make the quality seem more reasonable maybe £7-£8 maximum. Unless I see a big step up on the QC for the Finecast stuff my money will be spent on the plastic kits or just sculpting my own figures using the plastic stuff as a base. Due to the fact that Studio McVey produce resin figures for the same price and at a 10/10 quality I took this figure back and got a refund so I can buy a McVey mini fig that will be nice to paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Item: Imperial Guard Lord Commissar Price: $15.25 USD Pictures: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3008.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3010.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3014.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3016.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3015.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/mod/100_3017.jpg Good points: - Lightweight. - After cutting out, trimming flash/mold lines, sticking together was ridiculously quick and easy. - Easy to see detail out of the blister. - Dropped from height of 8ft onto a linoleum floor without a single problem. Bad points: - Exact same mold as original metal. Seriously, it was stamped '08 on the slotta bar. - Massive, ugly mold lines. - Deep hole and other crap on the hat. - Pitting. - When I scraped away to even the lines, it revealed airbubbles underneath. - The sword was bent and required some heat to straighten it out. - Scraping, as suggested by GW, still produces resin dust. Toxic or no, I'd rather not breathe it. Score out of 10: 6 On the whole, it's a nice model I guess (it was the best one in the bunker). The work I'll have to do to repair what wouldn't have been there in a metal model won't be hard, but an annoyance I'd rather not have. On the plus side, dropping it has no effect; the soft, bendy material for this model was enough to keep it together. Still, this experience makes me not want to buy any more until the problems get worked out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2774657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodai78 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Item:Dark Angles Company Master Price: $28.00 also have the old Metal cast of it for comparassion http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo190/asmodai78/IMG_0160.jpg http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo190/asmodai78/IMG_0155.jpg http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo190/asmodai78/IMG_0154.jpg Score: 5/10 Good points: Ligh weight, great detail, sturdy (drop resistant), picture reference is good. Bad points: Cost (living in Australia GW seem to think we are richer then everyone else), mold lines, air bubbles (left foot needs GS filling and sculpting), pitting, resin dust I think the quality could be a lot better for the price considering other wargamming companys are cheaper and with a better cast (JMO) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2774869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezartfox Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 How can you say its the EXACT same mold as before? The tab is when it was sculpted, not cast. Look at the metal version and then the finecast.. notice a difference? Like the sprue maybe? For them to appear a new mold has to be made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2774927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
he_plays_guitar Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Sorry, I dont have pictures because I didn't end up buying it in the end. I bought a Canis Wolfborn box for 49 US dollars, opened it up in the store, and it had massive amounts of bubbles and pits. So, as per the store policy here in Carkeek Washington, they exchanged it free of charge. The next one had parts of the Wolf's jaw missing, and pitting and holes on the figure's leg. So I exchanged that one too. The next one had the exact same problem, and had a huge bubble of resin on the figure's belt. The next one had a piece of the mold STILL ATTACHED to the belt...in the EXACT spot the previous model had a huge bubble of resin. This went on...and on...and on, until we went through all SEVEN of the boxes in the store. Then they gave me store credit for a different model, so I bought a finecast boxset of the chaos raptors, and they gave me the difference in cash. This box proved to be much better, but the jetpacks had holes right through the intakes! We then went through THREE more boxes, all with holes in the intakes, (and I mean big, ugly holes) and one box had bubbles on every single rivet on the raptor's armor. Wow. Needless to say, I ended up getting all my money back, and the manager of the store apologized profusely and promised to write GW a letter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2774953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Item: The Emperors Champion and Inquisitor Corteaz Price: £9.50 and £10.50 respectively Pictures: Not got any yet - cameras playing up. Think I need some new batteries :) Good points: Both are very well cast and absolutely no air bubbles. Nice and light and the matt surface of the resin makes details easier to see. Resin is more flexible then some plastic parts. The Sharpness of the details is amazing too. Bad points: The amount of flash from the molds - but then it's no worse than some of the old metal models. Score out of 10: A healthy 9 out of 10 from me. This is because I picked through the packs on the shelves to make sure I got the ones that needed the least amount of work (i.e. flash removal and mold lines) A little better quality control on the products would have earned that extra 1 point. Personal opinion: All in all, some very nice models which I bought for conversion work. Got no big quibbles about the quality or the price really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Harkus Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Item: Techmarine and Servitors Price: £25.50 Pictures : Nah Good points: -Resin is massively easier to work with. I'm converting this guy to Grey Knights so there's a headswap and a wrist storm bolter that would both be a pain with metal -Details is nice and sharp - Much easier to clean up - When you make a resin-resin join with superglue, it stays joined compared to metal models falling apart under their own weight Bad points: - mold lines and flash are prevailent so its a damn good job its easier to cut - Bubbles. I've never had a bubble in a metal mini. - Warped parts. 3 of the servo arms and the power weapon were warped in at least one direction - I am going to have to use greenstuff (something I normally avoid unless I feel like it) to fix some of the errors - If you like converting you need to bear in mind that the flexibility may lead to some plasic parts coming un-glued Score out of 10: 7/10 Personal opinion (please keep it short) I'm definitely a fan. I've always loved converting so this can only be a good thing for me. I'm not sure everyone has the same patience as me when it comes to cleaning up etc which is probably going to annoy some people. Although this clearly wasn't the easiest build in the world, I can only say that it was easier than the metal techmarine I own, and in fact the conversion work would have been nearing impossible, or requireing a lot of resculpting after. Since this is the same price as the metal kit, I can hardly complain there, although I could have bought a fair amount of beer down the local Spoons for that much... (16 pints... I wish I hadn't worked that out. I'm now sad.) What I'm definitely looking forward to seeing is NEW models being made in finecast rather than old models re-done. I think the scope for capturing detail is going to make for some excelent models and hopfully less defects over time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioka Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 The only reason that I started the thread was to get an idea of how good the new finecast stuff was in general especialy due to the price jump (in the U.K some stuff was the same price as usual and other items rose a considerable amount) hopefully see if there is a trend in the quality of some kits compared to others. It would be nice to know if those kits in the card boxes are worth the money before you shell out the cash maybe this info will be usefull if just for that alone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The only reason that I started the thread was to get an idea of how good the new finecast stuff was in general especialy due to the price jump (in the U.K some stuff was the same price as usual and other items rose a considerable amount) hopefully see if there is a trend in the quality of some kits compared to others.It would be nice to know if those kits in the card boxes are worth the money before you shell out the cash maybe this info will be usefull if just for that alone. It seems like, if you sort through the bad ones you can get an okay one.... :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The only reason that I started the thread was to get an idea of how good the new finecast stuff was in general especialy due to the price jump (in the U.K some stuff was the same price as usual and other items rose a considerable amount) hopefully see if there is a trend in the quality of some kits compared to others.It would be nice to know if those kits in the card boxes are worth the money before you shell out the cash maybe this info will be usefull if just for that alone. It seems like, if you sort through the bad ones you can get an okay one.... :devil: Doesn't sound any different from what I had to do with the metal models frankly. The price has gone up but the flip-side is the resin models are easier to fix in terms of mold lines and such, and easier to convert over all. And since GW is at least pretty dependable on return/reimbursement policies, seems like a mostly positive change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Here is a review from Total Wargamer: http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/blog/?p=1342 Personally, I picked up the new Logan Grimnar fig and I'll toss up a review once I find the metal one out in the workshop so I can compare the two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 At a glance Rating: 9.5/10 Good: Light, very little flaws, resing cuts easily, quite durable. whopping details! Bad: Maybe the slight price increase is the worst of it, the only miscast was a tiny tiny hole in the hammer that can easily be fixed. LONG REVIEW. I just picked up a Coteaz finecast (it seems like everyone and his mother wants them nowadays) and I have to say GW did a fine job on this miniature, no mold lines at all, a little flash and a single microscopic airbubble in the back of the hammer. The detail is indeed sharper than the old metal, as the fur on the cloak is much more designed and you actually notice the =][= pimp ring on his left hand! I just chucked the model across the room and nothing bent, not even the cape, you have to try really hard to break it! The material also takes to a knife very well, just like FW resins, just need to be a little gentler. One other great thing about this model is the base tab, previously it always sucked for m to try to get metals into their slotta bases, usually because they were bent or something like that, with this stuff it slid right in with minimal trimming. This is a very well made model and I will definitely try to get a Lysander model when he comes out! This guy was $18.25 USD, but considering the quality and how light the material is the extra money isn't too bad! I only worry about the larger mini kits like the raptors and their price increases, but hey at least they won't tip over! PICS http://i55.tinypic.com/ibcg7o.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2ia4duw.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/28le89f.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/or2omq.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2lsvfw0.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/m7uk45.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAINE-77 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Picked up my first Finecast today, gotta say that it was a revelation! Not a GW fan-boy by any means, but thought it was easy to work with, noticably crisper lines and had far fewer flaws than any metal model I've owned. So for me, I'm quite happy to leap on the bandwagon! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilnar Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm gonna jump on too, there's links to the models in my sig, but I bought the DA master and the tech marine, both amazing, 9/10 here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Seems to be a hit and miss with Finecast, may have to try and see how it goes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2775600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHand Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Bought the Terminator Librarian. Very pleased with the results and look of the model. The details are amazing and I see no problems with it. I like the look of that Huron... going to need to finally pick up that model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2778120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Here's an update - I sent a link to my blog over to the Customer Services guys at GW. Anyway, I'm being sent a new Captain Stern. No argument, just a shipping notification, nice and efficient. Big kudos to Customer Services. So, it seems that GW Customer Services also agree this level of fixing is not really acceptable for a premium product. Let's see if the replacement is up to par. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2778267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJP Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Item: Imperial Guard Lord Commissar Price: £9.50 Pictures: N/A Good Points: Lightweight Easy to work with Very sharp details Bad Points: Couple of air bubblesScore: 9/10 Personal Opinion: I am actually quite happy with my model. It looks great, and now it's mostly painted up compares very favourably to some of the metal IG figures that I own. It does have a couple of air bubbles, but fortunately I got one where the only air bubbles are really noticable from underneath. The only reason it didn't get 10/10 is the price is a bit high! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2778589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crandall87 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 If you're free from miscasts and bubbles then the finecast range is fantastic. I was amazed at how quickly they glue together and how easy they are to work with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2779843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblood Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 sad to say that the majority of the pics here have MANY air bubbles, and notable ones at that. I've seen fewer airbubbles and whatnot from home cast resin pieces and garage kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2779976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilnar Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 sad to say that the majority of the pics here have MANY air bubbles, and notable ones at that. I've seen fewer airbubbles and whatnot from home cast resin pieces and garage kits. Realy? Apart from the canis wolf born, which seems to be a dodgy one, most of the reviews are positive, People are always faster to complain than to praise, yet we haunt seen hundreds of bubble ridden piccys. yes, there are some bad casts, but I've had proportionately more metal miscasts than fine cast ones so far. Link in the sig to my blog, both just stuck together, no issues Saying that, Ive seen LOADS of the new DE character, and theyve all peen perfect, so maybe it's just that some of the greens don't transfer well into resin. I'm usually the first to mock a release, but I think this is a GOOD one. now if you get a miss mould, do exactly what you'd do normally and TAKE IT BACK. GW will, with no questions asked, give you a new one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2780020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Most of the positive reviews I've read actually list a lot of flaws that the reviewer just lets slide, or have entailed the reviewer going through multiple blisters to find a good cast. Neither of those situations should happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2780461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Most of the positive reviews I've read actually list a lot of flaws that the reviewer just lets slide, or have entailed the reviewer going through multiple blisters to find a good cast. Neither of those situations should happen. Sloppy work or a cunning ploy to further reduce 3rd party online shopping because people have to check the blisters in person first? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2780495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopervisor Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I'm yet to buy a finecast, but my past experience with both metal, plastic and FW resin has shown me that there is always some prep that needs to be done. The last few metal figures I've done took lots of filing, scraping, pinning, filling etc. The FW resin has it's own process of washing, cleaning up, etc. Even a new plastic box like the Sanguinary Guard needed lots of time in preparation/assembly. I don't see how the flash and odd air hole is any different :S In fact part of the hobby I like is taking my time over assembling the figures, so a bit of extra time isn't a worry. I'm not in a hurry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2780660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
christheodorou Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 i was talking to the manager andy in my local store yesterday and asked how many returns hes had from finecast he said a few but they will happily exchange them for fresh ones if your not entirely happy, from what he said GW want all the returns boxed up and sent back to head office so they can have a look and work out the kinks i think in a few months most if not all the figures we but in finecast will be top draw! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230801-finecast-pictures-and-evaluation/#findComment-2780750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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