minigun762 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Yeah thats more then worth it to me. Thanks dude. Just give us a heads up on when it may be available so I can furiously refresh the page spamming BUY BUY BUY. I'll be right there with you, this sounds awesome! I am a huge sucker for these "behind the scenes" explanations of how things went down outside of the actual battlefields. Hopefully the fiance will forgive me for shifting some wedding money away to another priority. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 this is a case of my "i hate GW's novella approach (release as few copies as humanly possible to be evil) losing out to my "buy anything BL done by AD-B". dammit. now i have to buy this. again, living in the US south sucking for a GW fan. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Time to start saving for this! In the excerpt Angron seems very much like a caged animal, which is fitting with what we have seem before of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up :tu: I'm gnna have to check BL website literally everyday now so I make sure i can preorder this :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiberium40k Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Will this be available for the masses later on? I heard Promethean Sun will be re-released some time next year for all of us people who weren`t fortunate enough to get it last month, so if the same thing applies to Aurelian, it would simplify my problems with obtaining everything HH related (considering the only place in my country where you can buy BL books tends to get them a month or two after the UK release... damn you Brits...). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 As far as I know, it's not out until Games Day UK. Don't quote me on that; there'll be announcements and stuff closer to the time, it won't pop up without warning. Will this be available for the masses later on? I heard Promethean Sun will be re-released some time next year for all of us people who weren`t fortunate enough to get it last month, so if the same thing applies to Aurelian, it would simplify my problems with obtaining everything HH related (considering the only place in my country where you can buy BL books tends to get them a month or two after the UK release... damn you Brits...). The deal with the limited edition novellas is that they won't appear in any other format until 2+ years after their release, and they'll never be released in Collector's Edition format again. That's as much as I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2791973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Good thing I've got two kidneys, 'cause one's getting turned into a book! :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2792587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 So his name is Lorgar Aurelian? If my memory serves me right Aurelian was to Lorgar what, say, Lupercal was to Horus. It's not an official part of his name -- Lorgar is Lorgar, plain and simple -- but everyone needs a nickname. By likening Lorgar to Horus you've confirmed his question; Horus is known as Horus Lupercal to every Astartes and Primarch, just as Lorgar is known as Lorgar Aurelian, which is shown in the novel "The First Heretic". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2792592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Of Dorn Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I belived that is was the same thing as Fulgrim being the Phoenician, El'Jonson being The Lion or Magnus being Red Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I belived that is was the same thing as Fulgrim being the Phoenician, El'Jonson being The Lion or Magnus being Red Ehhh, those are more likes titles rather than true appellations to their names, though. For instance, Ferrus' full name is Ferrus Manus. He's also called the Gorgon, but never Ferrus Manus Gorgon all in one shot. That's what seperates the Lupercal and Aurelian nicknames from the rest of the titles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Of Dorn Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Magnus is often called Magnus The Red Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hes never just called Red though, is he? HEY RED, WHATCHA DOING http://www.trovster.com/img/blog/%5B81%5D_futurama-roberto.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 But Lorgars nickname is the Urizen, so Aurelian must be like Russ. Russ was called Leman Russ, but his nickname is the Wolf? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Just to make 100% clear - as I'd freaking hate anyone to shell out so much money over something on a misapprehension - it's very much the story of what Lorgar saw in the Eye of Terror. About a quarter of it (mostly the first couple and last few chapters) does deal with Lorgar and several Traitor Primarchs after Isstvan, including how they're noticing the Bearer of the Word is changing since the Dropsite Massacre, and Lorgar's reaction to Fulgrim's 'unique situation'. This description... unfortunately, makes it a must have. Hopefully this is out around some event where I'm supposed to receive gifts...or I'll have to make one up. The rough excerpt, brought forth some rich imagery, I can't imagine what this will do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2793776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I am not usually the one for getting limited edition and similar things, but for this one I might actually indulge myself. After all, if it is priced the same way as "Promethean Sun", it is only about $26 more expensive than a typical PS3 video game... and I own a few of those. Now if I could only convince my wife of the necessity of this purchase... maybe if it comes out around November or later it can be a birthday present? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2794052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradill Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 But Lorgars nickname is the Urizen, so Aurelian must be like Russ. Russ was called Leman Russ, but his nickname is the Wolf? I posted a thread on this very subject a while back http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=225067 As discussed in that thread, the only Primarch who has a similar title to Lorgar is Horus. Horus Lupercal Lorgar Aurelian They are the names that their respective Legions gave them. Leman Russ was Leman of the Russ long before the arrival of the Emperor on Fenris, Lorgar was just Lorgar unitl he joined his legion. On topic: I was all set to ignore this novella, I had read the extract and was worried it was going to be a limited story if it is just "Fulgrim is a demon!! I R NOT HAPPY!!!" Shame on me for underestimating Mr. A D-B, Lorgars' personal development? The things he saw in the eye? Him taking his place within the traitor Primarchs circle? Sold, sold and sold sir! As for it being the best cover art to date, I now expect nothing less than a warp infused leather-bound book of Lorgar cover.. With fire and breasts.. And guns which fire the previously mentioned items.. Paradill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2794082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 But Lorgars nickname is the Urizen, so Aurelian must be like Russ. Russ was called Leman Russ, but his nickname is the Wolf? I posted a thread on this very subject a while back http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=225067 As discussed in that thread, the only Primarch who has a similar title to Lorgar is Horus. Horus Lupercal Lorgar Aurelian They are the names that their respective Legions gave them. Leman Russ was Leman of the Russ long before the arrival of the Emperor on Fenris, Lorgar was just Lorgar unitl he joined his legion. On topic: I was all set to ignore this novella, I had read the extract and was worried it was going to be a limited story if it is just "Fulgrim is a demon!! I R NOT HAPPY!!!" Shame on me for underestimating Mr. A D-B, Lorgars' personal development? The things he saw in the eye? Him taking his place within the traitor Primarchs circle? Sold, sold and sold sir! As for it being the best cover art to date, I now expect nothing less than a warp infused leather-bound book of Lorgar cover.. With fire and breasts.. And guns which fire the previously mentioned items.. Paradill Ah right, I understand it now thanks :) OT: I think it will be interesting to see what its like inside the EoT before traitor guardsmen and renegade/chaos marines took up residence there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2794426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Well it will go nicely with my copy of Promethean Sun I suppose :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2794896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerelius Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Will we plebs in Australia be able to get this great work, as i just loved the way Black Library rained on my parade by not letting me get my hands on Prometheus Suns. How I laughed at that.......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2795285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge The Weak Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Loved the extract ! I was really impressed by how you portrayed 'Savage Weapons' across too! Also just finished reading Blood Reaver, enjoyed it. Out of curiosity will you be carrying on with stories about Sahaal from Lord of the Night? I imagine it could tie in with Talos, as his views are rather similar. He may be found along the way sort of thing ? From Soul Hunter I get the impression this could happen. Keep up the good work anyway. Purge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2795922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Just to make 100% clear - as I'd freaking hate anyone to shell out so much money over something on a misapprehension - it's very much the story of what Lorgar saw in the Eye of Terror. About a quarter of it (mostly the first couple and last few chapters) does deal with Lorgar and several Traitor Primarchs after Isstvan, including how they're noticing the Bearer of the Word is changing since the Dropsite Massacre, and Lorgar's reaction to Fulgrim's 'unique situation'. But, again, none of it is "essential" reading in the sense of Horus Rising, for example. It's just (hopefully) a cool story to bridge a few gaps and show a little more between the cracks. I'll be getting this Novella (page/word count btw?) As a rough guide to the Horus Heresy: Audio dramas are about 10,000 words. Short stories are usually 8,000 to 15,000 words. Novellas are about 30,000 words. Novels are 90,000 to 150,000 words. tl;dr -- Aurelian is about three times as long as my usual short stories, and about a quarter of the length of The First Heretic Thats pretty useful info, I had no idea. Totally of topic, your Nightlords books are AMAZING!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2796982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blamb Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Will we plebs in Australia be able to get this great work, as i just loved the way Black Library rained on my parade by not letting me get my hands on Prometheus Suns. How I laughed at that.......... they let me have a copy. though it did cost $130 with postage. I was really impressed by how you portrayed 'Savage Weapons' across too! in that i especially loved the part where they teleport down to the planet. The way it spanned two chapters seemd to show nicely how teleporting feels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2797581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It could certainly be interpreted that way. Who did you manage to make that sound so creepy? The man writes Night lords novels, so He has the skill to make everything sound creepy.. Fear is a weapon <_< I want this novella !! I don't care if it costs 100£ I must have it.. the short extract alone makes you want to read it, to know how the other primarchs and horus will deal with the fact that Fulgrim is not really Fulgrim.. (altough horus already knew) Another question besides the HH for ADB, since Nick kyme was mentioned it this topic it occured to me, that your Night lord characters met his Salamanders in 2 short stories (wonderfull to see the 2 sides that way) Will this continue in the other novels ?? (both salamanders and night lords ?? ) :yuck: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2801339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilMAC25 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Okay. Yeah, Aurelian is Lorgar's surname, of sorts. Much like how Horus is occasionally "Horus Lupercal", Lorgar is (very rarely) Lorgar Aurelian in The First Heretic. Mostly, it's just his nickname, like Lupercal, rather than a solid surname. Aurelian is a limited edition novella, like Promethean Sun. It'll probably be limited to about 3,000 copies. Aurelian was supposed to be first, but I missed my deadline (what a shock!) by so much, that another novella had to be commissioned to take its place in the schedule. The premise behind it is "What did Lorgar see in the Eye of Terror?" and yes, the extract shown on BL.com a while ago - with all the Traitor Primarchs in council - was from Chapter One of Aurelian. They posted the first draft extract a few hours after I'd handed it in, which actually bugged me a tiny bit as I could see little things like how there was a "the" missing, and so on. Here's the link to the extract: http://www.blacklibrary.com/downloads/prod...f/1-9/20000.pdf. It's probably most notable for the fact that it shows a clear view of how I'll be treating Angron, and for showing how Lorgar is starting to change from his years of being lost and confused in The First Heretic. The actual novella also sets up my next Horus Heresy novel in the most obvious and blatant way possible, as the Eye of Terror section is framed by several Primarchs a few days after Isstvan, doing... things. It gets released later in the year, and in my humble opinion, it has the best cover of anything in the series - novel, novella, or audio drama. But that's not getting shown for a while, yet. Hope that helps. Quick question, are these stories likely to ever be released as paperbacks (or even just with a wider distribution)? I understand that they aren't necessary to the overall story arch of HH BUT, they do give deeper insight into characters that we are all interested in reading about. I own every HH book and multiple books from other portions of WH40K, but I just can't bring myself to throw down 50 bones for a novella. Being a Texan, I need every dollar to buy more guns and ammo (not kidding, I love guns and most are 100% legal here) Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2862507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilMAC25 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Okay. Yeah, Aurelian is Lorgar's surname, of sorts. Much like how Horus is occasionally "Horus Lupercal", Lorgar is (very rarely) Lorgar Aurelian in The First Heretic. Mostly, it's just his nickname, like Lupercal, rather than a solid surname. Aurelian is a limited edition novella, like Promethean Sun. It'll probably be limited to about 3,000 copies. Aurelian was supposed to be first, but I missed my deadline (what a shock!) by so much, that another novella had to be commissioned to take its place in the schedule. The premise behind it is "What did Lorgar see in the Eye of Terror?" and yes, the extract shown on BL.com a while ago - with all the Traitor Primarchs in council - was from Chapter One of Aurelian. They posted the first draft extract a few hours after I'd handed it in, which actually bugged me a tiny bit as I could see little things like how there was a "the" missing, and so on. Here's the link to the extract: http://www.blacklibrary.com/downloads/prod...f/1-9/20000.pdf. It's probably most notable for the fact that it shows a clear view of how I'll be treating Angron, and for showing how Lorgar is starting to change from his years of being lost and confused in The First Heretic. The actual novella also sets up my next Horus Heresy novel in the most obvious and blatant way possible, as the Eye of Terror section is framed by several Primarchs a few days after Isstvan, doing... things. It gets released later in the year, and in my humble opinion, it has the best cover of anything in the series - novel, novella, or audio drama. But that's not getting shown for a while, yet. Hope that helps. Quick question, are these stories likely to ever be released as paperbacks (or even just with a wider distribution)? I understand that they aren't necessary to the overall story arch of HH BUT, they do give deeper insight into characters that we are all interested in reading about. I own every HH book and multiple books from other portions of WH40K, but I just can't bring myself to throw down 50 bones for a novella. Being a Texan, I need every dollar to buy more guns and ammo (not kidding, I love guns and most are 100% legal here) Thanks You can obviously disregard this as you answered my question already in this thread. Thanks (PS, your Night Lord Apothecary is far and away my favorite Chaos character. No one comes close) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231941-aurelian/page/2/#findComment-2862513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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