Sanguinius as Warmaster

[Castiel]

@ Pulse

 

That's kind of what I'm saying. What I mean is that on Signus the BAs lost it when the primarch fell, but afterwards they returned to normal, whereas in m41 if they lose it, they never recover (with the obvious exceptions). What I'm saying is the rage on signus wasn't the Black Rage, but a precursor to it.

[The 13th Goat]

@ Pulse

 

That's kind of what I'm saying. What I mean is that on Signus the BAs lost it when the primarch fell, but afterwards they returned to normal, whereas in m41 if they lose it, they never recover (with the obvious exceptions). What I'm saying is the rage on signus wasn't the Black Rage, but a precursor to it.

 

What, like a black tantrum?

[Blood Angel Scout]

It's more likely Signus Prime the first instance of the Red Thirst as the Black Rage is where the inflicted believes themselves to be Sanguinius as he fought in the Battle of Terra and as far as I know, the Red Thirst has been described as the desire to tear apart opponents

[Arkangilos]

It's more likely Signus Prime the first instance of the Red Thirst as the Black Rage is where the inflicted believes themselves to be Sanguinius as he fought in the Battle of Terra and as far as I know, the Red Thirst has been described as the desire to tear apart opponents

 

That is what I said earlier. It wasn't the Black Rage, it was the first signs of the Red Thirst.

[Castiel]

It's more likely Signus Prime the first instance of the Red Thirst as the Black Rage is where the inflicted believes themselves to be Sanguinius as he fought in the Battle of Terra and as far as I know, the Red Thirst has been described as the desire to tear apart opponents

 

Yup, that's more like it!

[Arkangilos]

While I did agree on that, there is an earlier post (in response to mine saying it was just the Red Thirst) that said the book pretty much said they were living through Sanguinius future death (like they saw the image in their head that he would die), and they were filled with a rage. While it still might not be the Black Rage, this did make it seem that it could certainly be a precurser to that as well.

 

However, it also holds within it the solution and cure. Bring Sanguinius back to life, and the Black Rage will be gone :D.

[Lagbenektelse]

slipping in real quick. if the blood angels experienced the rage up until they recovered sanguinius and he recovered/woke up then theoretically it was the ever present calming influence of their primarch that kept the angels on an even keel. therefore the condition could be the black rage but their is no treatment after the angels death.

 

back to whether or not sanguinius would turn i would point out that horus' dream quest included a revelation by his brother that he was being lied to and manipulated with erebus saying "sure i lied but you know you like what you heard" after the unmasking. Horus not only disregarded his brother's warning but then acted to corrupt/compel that same brother into treachery. Having family prove your advisor(not friend or confidant) has been actively deceiving you sounds like a pretty good reason to fire the advisor and at least reassess.

 

the bloodthirster said join or die and then broke his legs/ immobilized him. as far as sanguinius knew that was going to be the end of him and his legion and he still said no. Horus showed willful ignorance to Sanguinius' loyalty and conviction even unto death. is there a scenario where chaos turns sanguinius? probably. but that is only because to state otherwise is to put the occurence on the side of the impossible rather than the ridiculously improbable.

 

oh and the alpha legion could probably pull it even if the chaos gods couldnt