Brother Captain Andrew Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi everyone, I have just started the series and am loving it, but I was wondering given the pattern of how some of the major battles are being written (i.e. Prospero and Calth) when we get to the Siege of the Imperial palace I was wondering who everyone wants to write the Imperial fists? Personally my hope is for Aaron Dembski Bowden I would love to see what he can do with Dorn and Sigismund after having read Helsreach. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I agree i think A D-B should be handed the Imperial Fists, i honestly think he should be given the best "bits" of the HH and allowed to write about it. Both Abnett and McNeill cannot write Astartes properly and are both over the hill and quite frankly, boring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Honestly, I think if given the choice most of us would give A D-B pretty much any and all entries in the HH series that we would have a prediliction towards. We're going to have to think about what ones he could do, given a writers schedule, rather than wish he'd do this one and that one, and that one, and that one too, and this one... You get the idea. Not to bash on your thread, brother, but alot of these threads inevitably end up as a wish-thread, focusing on A D-B. Seeing as you asked - yes, an A D-B interpretation of Fists would be nice but I'd also like to see other names get a fair crack at it - say James Swallow. Dan Abnett is much better but his perspective on space marines is not as good as others. He's better off dealing with the more non-astartes books in the series, really, as he can do regular grimdark humans to a tee imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustmanifesto Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 well, I should, of course. Though i figure I'll have to submit to this black library contest (next year), win, publish 5 warhammer novels, and then hand out "body bribes" around black library for that to happen. :) um... That being the case, I think Dan should. He seems to either be the most talented at connecting internal to external conflict or, at least, he factors this dynamic into his works more. I think that characteristic would be important for the VII Legion in particular, given the hints of Dorn's inner dilemmas and reservation's of which we've gotten a snippet. close tie for second is ADB because his pros are so dead nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I think whoever writes it,it should have an element of Ian Watson to it. Space Marine as weird as it is today is still one of my favorites in 40k "The Emp's Namenz is Death" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustmanifesto Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I think whoever writes it,it should have an element of Ian Watson to it.Space Marine as weird as it is today is still one of my favorites in 40k "The Emp's Namenz is Death" sorry for the near double post but... yes. I would really like the VII Legion book to pick up on the absolute gems put forward by Watson, e.g. the Imperial Fists practicing the "Prussic code," honor duels, scrimshaw and their genetic disposition to be obsessed with will power. Sadly, it is testament to how watered down Watson work has become that the last of those has been 'simplified' to merely "stubborness" and the others don't factor at all, save honor duels. *sigh* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Angel Scout Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Would hope for Ian Watson to do it, loved "Space Marine" when it came out and took me another 17 years before getting my hands on his Inquistion Wars collection after seeing it advertised in it, even if the game has changed since then, still rate those works as some of the best 40k related works available Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ian Watson, eh? Hmm. So long as he leaves out some of the weirder stuff from his earlier work I'd be curious to see an entry into the series by him. :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Honestly, I think if given the choice most of us would give A D-B pretty much any and all entries in the HH series that we would have a prediliction towards. We're going to have to think about what ones he could do, given a writers schedule, rather than wish he'd do this one and that one, and that one, and that one too, and this one... You get the idea. Not to bash on your thread, brother, but alot of these threads inevitably end up as a wish-thread, focusing on A D-B. I agree with this. ADB is an excellent writer but he can't do it all on his own. Personally, i'd like to see one of the newish writers have a crack at Rogal and his boys, bring a new air to the HH series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Abnett and mcNeil cant write Astrates, ok? Haven't thought anything like that reading their HH-books. Care to elaborate? Exactly how are they bad at writing Atartes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I wouldn't mind seeing Ben Counter do it. Galaxy in Flames is one my favorite books so far (I'm about half way through Fulgrim) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2837988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Agree with Olisredan and Coryphaus 101 As much as we love A-D-B, he can't do it on his own James Swallow or Ben Counter i think would do a great job for the Fists. Galaxy in Flames was a great book, one of the best in the series i thought, and James Swallow's FotE was a good book too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I have seen omewhere (Youtube interview I think) that A D-B said he would like to write abot Sigismud & the Fists which would be sweet but I also echo other comments regarding bringin Ian Watson back but I would also like to see Matt Farrer given a chance - he write some really great 40K stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I wouldn;t mind James Swallow giving him a go. His battles are very exciting and he already had a very covincing crack at portraying Dorn in FOTE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codicier Lucion Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I wouldn;t mind James Swallow giving him a go. His battles are very exciting and he already had a very covincing crack at portraying Dorn in FOTE. Agreed, he and Abnett did good jobs at writing Dorn in their stories. Ben Counter might be good at it if you give him enough conflict to work with, I could see him doing the fight between the Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors in the Phall system well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Personally, I wouldn't want A D-B to write it. He's just too good at making characters miserable. While Black Templars and Night Lords are awesome like that, Imperial fists are, like, the awesome chapter. They could be miserable, but they deserve more. They need a chance to kick ass whilst not moping around being confused about how things are completely out of their hands. I think it would take the heart out the chapter. Sure, they're grumpy sometimes, but they're also Heroes. The Black Templars took the Grumpiness, the Crimson Fists the Heroism. But Imperial Fists need to be both, in a lesser degree. Not that he would tear it into little pieces and completely ruin it, just that the books we've seen so far just don't have the right feel, in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparhawk Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 My vote is for Sandy Mitchell that way we could have ROGAL DORN DEFENDER OF THE IMPERIUM/ SIGISMUND HERO OF THE IMPERIUM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I want A D-B to be chained to a desk and forced to write Black Templar and Imperial Fists stories. Such is the price of being such a good writer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Any of the HH team are equipped to write any of the novels, we are all going to sway towards one author or another, just natural. So, in conclusion, I don't mind any of them :down: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Dan Abnett. Loved how Dorn was portrayed in Horus Rising. He became my favourite loyalist primarch after that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Terra Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ian Watson, eh? Hmm. So long as he leaves out some of the weirder stuff from his earlier work I'd be curious to see an entry into the series by him. :unsure: Leave out the weird and I don't know how much Watson will have in him! It's been three years since I read his Jaq Draco stuff and I'm still digesting it and trying to figure out if I liked it or not... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I think whoever writes it,it should have an element of Ian Watson to it.Space Marine as weird as it is today is still one of my favorites in 40k "The Emp's Namenz is Death" sorry for the near double post but... yes. I would really like the VII Legion book to pick up on the absolute gems put forward by Watson, e.g. the Imperial Fists practicing the "Prussic code," honor duels, scrimshaw and their genetic disposition to be obsessed with will power. Sadly, it is testament to how watered down Watson work has become that the last of those has been 'simplified' to merely "stubborness" and the others don't factor at all, save honor duels. *sigh* The scene where Lexandro dips his hand in acid to scrimshaw the names of his two fellow fallen brothers still gives me chills Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Space Marine was a peculiar cup of tea. I kept having a mental image of Tron: Legacy, Event Horizon, Pandorum, and Soldier cross in my mind. With all the characters in Renfair clothes and multicolored rock and roll hair cuts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reldn Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Oddly enough I just got done re-reading Space Marine today. By and far one of my absolute favourite 40k novels ever...Though, I do have to admit there is some definite weirdness to it. Having Ian Watson do another Fists novel would be great, but, I'm not sure how well he'd be able to manage it sticking to how the universe works now, compared to 1993 when the universe wasn't still quite fully realised and there was room for some of that characteristic weirdness and Astartes acting differently to how they do now. I'm actually not sure I'd like for Dan Abnett to write about the Fists, because, didn't he do the story for the Ultramarines movie? Look at how the fists got treated there! *laughs* A-D-B, James Swallow, Steve Parker, and I think Gav Thorpe could do a decent book about the Imperial Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Abnett and mcNeil cant write Astrates, ok? Haven't thought anything like that reading their HH-books. Care to elaborate? Exactly how are they bad at writing Atartes? In regards to my comment, I'd say it's not really a case of Abnett not being able to write astartes but more of a case of him making them as human as possible, which is all well and good, but I'd prefer them to be slightly more inhuman (they are post-human, after all). I think he's got a great handle on the passages that refer to Terra and humanity itself and can write cracking stories, it's just the box he puts astartes in isn't exactly the one I'd have them in (let's just say there's an overlap between his box and mine). This, ultimately, means that it's only my personal outlook on how marines act and react to things that's differing from Abnett's, rather than any other aspect of his approach to the 40k universe, and so it is merely minor niggles that hold him from the highest esteem in my eyes. Besides that I find him incredibly inventive at times and perfectly capable of weaving stories with multiple threads, influences and flavours, a skill set that see's him as my favourite author still (just), it's just that he isn't perfect and I like to think I don't idolise him or any other writer for being very good (not that I'm saying others do). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/#findComment-2838689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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