Trel Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The stock answer is, of course, A D-B because his books are so much fun to read; however, I'd like to see someone else get a crack at the Fists. I don't think A D-B's natural inclination towards subversive (or simply iconoclastic) characters lends itself towards the utterly loyal nature of the Fists. Abnett would write a brilliant book about a story that takes place within the Fists' purview, and probably go hundreds of pages without a single Marine showing up. I would not necessarily have a problem with this. Of course, if I had to pick anyone to write the Fists's story, it would be Matthew Farrer. The 'Shira Calpurnia' books are so far the only Black Library books that I have enjoyed and been able to recommend to others without having to tack on the 'if you like 40k.' caveat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2838742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I think that Abnett should be the one. I think he captures the loyalists really well, while AD-B captures the traitors really well. Both are really good authors though. Also, I do like pretty much every author of the series, so I think they could all handle it well. It was brought up that Abnett made them more human, but I think that fits the loyalists really well, while the "above human" fits the traitors. It adds to the attitude of both sides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2838762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Fact is by the time this rolls around, there will most likely be several more authors writing within the Heresy series. BL have several new authors with books coming out soon (Sarah Cawkwell, for example), and one of them might be most suited to tackling the Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2838780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 What about Chris Roberson? I quite liked his IF novel and short story Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Melvin Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I say we develop time travel, kidnap Logar Grimnar, and make him write the IF book. Space Wolves are great storytellers after all. :P Failing that, I would go ahead and suggest A-D-B, Ben Counter or James Swallow. McNeil seems to like making Space Marines less uber-killy super soldiers and more touchy-feely wimps. Dan Abnett is a great writer (Horus Rising is still my favorite book in the series) but I think that under his well constructed sentences his portrayal of Space Marines is lacking somehow. Failing that, just keep Matt Ward away from it or we'll have Sigismund, armed only with an oven mitt, win the Seige of Terra by himself... I jest of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Of course, Sigismund defeating the traitors with an Oven mit is entirely believable though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Im sure there are other Astartes as good as, or better than Sigismund from other Legions, but of course M2C doesn't beleive that is possible. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 ... Say what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenwonder Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 My first choice would be to see Chris Wraight have a crack at the Imperial Fists, I've just started reading Sword of Justice (granted a Fantasy novel rather than 40k but still...) which seems great so far and his short story Flesh in Hammer and Bolter was also excellent. An interesting choice (though I have ony heard the Waiting Death Audio at present) would be Steve Lyons. I've never read Ian Watson but from what has been said it would be curious to see what he could do. Failing that, James Swallow could be an interesting choice after Flight Of The Esienstein (though I would not want to inflict him on the Fists after what he's done with the Blood Angels) or maybe Graham McNeil. In the realms of impossibilty, I'd be curious to see what William King could do with the Fists. Now he's finally back at Black Library (and the Blood of Aenarion novel extract is excellent) it would be good to see what he could add to the proceedings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chaplain Ryld Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 It doesn't really bother me who writes the IF book. Counter, Swallow, Abnett and McNeill and AD-B have all written good books in the series so far. Im sure there are other Astartes as good as, or better than Sigismund from other Legions, but of course M2C doesn't beleive that is possible. ;) All Legions had better fighters than Sigismund. They were called Primarchs. :P Well, except for the 2nd and 11th Legion. They'll never call Sigismund a sissie again...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Ian Watson would certainly be cool, but realistically that's not going to happen. I certainly wouldn't mind Bill King making a return to BL with an IF novel. He does Astartes well. He does Xenos well. He does everything well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 All Legions had better fighters than Sigismund. They were called Primarchs. :P Well, except for the 2nd and 11th Legion. They'll never call Sigismund a sissie again...... I said Astartes not Primarchs. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 But he speaks the truth. It is a well known fact that practically all Ultramarines could hand Sigismund his deserts. And the Space Wolves could Fang him with their Wolf fangs made of 100% real wolf from the wolf grounds of Mt.Wolfenstein. And the Blood Angels could angelicly Angelize him...into a angel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2839984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unintentional Batman Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Agreed on Ian Watson. Put him under editorial control so he doesn't go too far off the rails and I'd be willing to wager we'd get an Fists book that would put even Legion and ADB's output to shame and would be true to what BL wants from the series. But like said, not going to happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Ben Counter. When he sticks to canon, he does write good books, its just when you get the lone soul drinker(That i think is fabulous) that most people go 'Say what?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Sigismund isn't the toughest space marine out there. The Space Wolves are, because there clinically insane. Back on topic, I'd love to see who A D-B thinks should write this book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Hmm... Space Wolves are clinically insane? Lets look at some evidence: 1) They were not as insane as the World Eaters or the Night Lords, both of whom caused destruction far outmatching the Space Wolves. 2) They were led by a Primarch who put on a barbarian act to appear more intimidating, which in itself is unintimidating. 3) They liked to sit around and circle jerk each other talking about how tough and vicious they are, while other legions had them beat by several orders of magnitude 4) They were hardly a final sanction, seeing as the would do anything the Emperor told them too. As A D-B pointed out, thats how a dog acts, not a wolf. And it implies if they can stop, they must have control, and can't be insane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Marshal that was a quote to Sigismund from Toragoddon in Horus Rising Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hmm... Space Wolves are clinically insane? Lets look at some evidence: 1) They were not as insane as the World Eaters or the Night Lords, both of whom caused destruction far outmatching the Space Wolves. 2) They were led by a Primarch who put on a barbarian act to appear more intimidating, which in itself is unintimidating. 3) They liked to sit around and circle jerk each other talking about how tough and vicious they are, while other legions had them beat by several orders of magnitude 4) They were hardly a final sanction, seeing as the would do anything the Emperor told them too. As A D-B pointed out, thats how a dog acts, not a wolf. And it implies if they can stop, they must have control, and can't be insane. You missed the point. Torgaddon says it to Sigusmund in Horus Rising (as esinhorn said). And anyway, Saul Tarvitz is better than Sigismund (so is Sor Talgron). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broker Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hmm... Space Wolves are clinically insane? Lets look at some evidence: 1) They were not as insane as the World Eaters or the Night Lords, both of whom caused destruction far outmatching the Space Wolves. 2) They were led by a Primarch who put on a barbarian act to appear more intimidating, which in itself is unintimidating. 3) They liked to sit around and circle jerk each other talking about how tough and vicious they are, while other legions had them beat by several orders of magnitude 4) They were hardly a final sanction, seeing as the would do anything the Emperor told them too. As A D-B pointed out, thats how a dog acts, not a wolf. And it implies if they can stop, they must have control, and can't be insane. You missed the point. Torgaddon says it to Sigusmund in Horus Rising (as esinhorn said). And anyway, Saul Tarvitz is better than Sigismund (so is Sor Talgron). Torgaddon is the joker of the group though. I'd taken that as him cracking a joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 That's why I said it. It was meant to be a joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqatone Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Personally, I wouldn't want A D-B to write it. He's just too good at making characters miserable. Haha! Come to think of it I've never seen him smile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235637-who-do-you-want-to-write-the-imperial-fists-book/page/2/#findComment-2840520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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