Clone Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Something I have been wondering since reading a Thousand Sons is this: What would've happened to Magnus if he hadn't made a deal with Tzeentch and the TSons were all over taken by the flesh change? Would another legion be raised with his gene seed or would he become a legion of one and work for the Emperor as a sort of Equerry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Legionless Primarch ? That would be a like wingless bird. Magnus would have pulled an hero i guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2838877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saa Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 That's an interesting question actually. Though the whole story reeks of ill thought out GW shenannigans. I've always had a bit of an issue with Empy not knowing about/helping Magnus deal with fixing the flesh change. And more importantly, why he never questioned HOW it stopped when Magnus made his Faustian pact with the lord of chickens.(apologies, my facetious name for Tzeentch) "you mean it's just stopped ?" said Empy "just like that? Wow your like totally lucky dude" .....and yes the emperor was a surfer Saa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2838891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Would another legion be raised with his gene seed or would he become a legion of one and work for the Emperor as a sort of Equerry? I think he would have another legion raised for him in a similar way that Fulgrim had when he had issues with his legion (although I think it was more building up in regards of the Emperors Children rather than completely rebuilding in this scenario for the Thousand Sons). Then again it's possible that the Emperor may have not bothered and just chained Magnus up whilst he started his work on the Golden Throne and invading the Webway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2838892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Or he would have told Magnus to assist him with the Webway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2839506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 That's an interesting question actually. Though the whole story reeks of ill thought out GW shenannigans. I've always had a bit of an issue with Empy not knowing about/helping Magnus deal with fixing the flesh change. And more importantly, why he never questioned HOW it stopped when Magnus made his Faustian pact with the lord of chickens.(apologies, my facetious name for Tzeentch) "you mean it's just stopped ?" said Empy "just like that? Wow your like totally lucky dude" .....and yes the emperor was a surfer Saa I thought I just missed something. Maybe Magnus insisted on being the one to correct the flesh change to show he was the equal of The Emperor? Maybe its all a part of the over arching plan of The Emperors that is the Horus Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2840257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 That or the Emperor took his word in confidence that Magnus corrected it himself, he had complete trust in the Primarchs after all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2841585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Perhaps the Emperor intended for the Thousand Sons to be destroyed as a Legion so that Magnus would have no choice but to be on the Golden Throne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2841982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Perhaps the Emperor intended for the Thousand Sons to be destroyed as a Legion so that Magnus would have no choice but to be on the Golden Throne. As much as the idea means the Emperor would have to be a cold, callous git to do that, it sounds like something he'd do. It's a little chessmaster-ish, mind you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2841985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Or he would have told Magnus to assist him with the Webway. Perhaps the Emperor intended for the Thousand Sons to be destroyed as a Legion so that Magnus would have no choice but to be on the Golden Throne. See, that's what I'm thinking. The Emperor purposely put the flesh-change in the Thousand Sons to destroy them and use Magnus on the Golden Throne. He experimented on the Emperors Children first, but made sure their 'genetic failure' wasn't completely fatal. Thank you for that theory, Shady, Duster :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2842566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCCCXXXVII Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Perhaps the Emperor intended for the Thousand Sons to be destroyed as a Legion so that Magnus would have no choice but to be on the Golden Throne. Oooooouuuu! I like this theory! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2844720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazabi24 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 That theory doesn't make any sense. He could easily just have not made the Thousand Sons if he didn't want them to exist. In that scenario he could've just landed on Prospero and recruited Magnus to build the Golden throne, instead of make him lead a doomed legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2844923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yes, but this way Magnus has a burning desire to overcome his previous failures, and be seen as useful to his father again, and therefore won't turn it down in place of taking a more active part like his brother Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2845210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabadin Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 That theory doesn't make any sense. He could easily just have not made the Thousand Sons if he didn't want them to exist. In that scenario he could've just landed on Prospero and recruited Magnus to build the Golden throne, instead of make him lead a doomed legion. To be fair, "I'm sorry about your loss my son, here be the first person to check out daddy's new toy" would likely go over far better than "Welcome to the universe, now get in the chair" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235717-magnus-and-the-flesh-change/#findComment-2845473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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