Head Mook Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I've decided that my crusade could use some serious character, so I'm adding 20 new Crusaders! 8 were created using Dark Angels Veterans and BT bits, and the remaining 12 will be BT, Warriors of Chaos, and a tiny touch of Grey Knight! I've just finished the first of the new Warriors conversions! Since I just got a camera capable of taking pictures I may turn this into a functioning WIP blog. Either way, here is the first Initiate! I'm debating keeping the WoC shield because for the rest of my army I use them as Storm Shields. I don't want to confuse anyone. Something else I've been considering is using vanilla space marine heads, but with crests made from Dire Avengers. Do you think using the WoC heads would be too few Templar-y bits? Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grius Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 He looks just like my old Castellan. Fond memories... I think the WoC shields are fine. They look cool and you did a good job filing it. No one will question whether or not it is a Storm Shield. As for the WoC heads, I think they are too small. I have tried it out, and trust me, if you use the WoC heads put them on your Neophytes. Edit: I just reread your post, and yes, I immediately thought Storm Shield. I would not put a shield on a model that doesn't have appropriate wargear, unless it is clearly decorative (ie. On a shoulder pad or something). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2897193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander S. Caesare Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 What legs does this guy have? Pretty cool bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2897224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntireMac Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think that if your Initiates are going to be a separate squad then you should leave them as they are. The only reason you should give them SS matching your other men are if you are adding them to squads...squad integrity you know?? lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2898977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 I have tried it out, and trust me, if you use the WoC heads put them on your Neophytes. Gruis, that's a great idea! I definitely think I'll be stealing it. What legs does this guy have? Pretty cool bit. Caesare, the legs, cape and shield are from the fantasy Warriors of Chaos sprue. The chest and legs are originally a single piece, but I cut it back to make room for a proper BT torso. There's a lot of fun bits there, you just have to get rid of some of those pesky Chaos icons... As for the shields, I've created some Greenstuff pressmolds of BT icons to go over the blank area to liven things up. However, I had a thought to leave the shields flat, but use the surface to freehand some Crusade banners from the Codex onto them. Alternatively I may emulate the stations of the Cross and do images of important moments in the Chapter's history: The Emperor affirming Dorn as Primarch, Sigismund leading the attack on Mars, the defense of the Palace, etc etc.... I think I can pull it off if I plan it sufficiently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2898993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 So here are some new photos of some new (and some not so new) minis: First up, the Rogal Dorn I've been putting together for like...two years :D In these pics he's missing the Storm Shield I have yet to put on him, and he's used as a TDA Marshal in larger games. And an (old) comparison shot: Then we have an Initiate, who represent my start at giving my Templar a paint job they deserve rather than just having them "table top ready". Then come the beginning of Crusader Squad Throne: Here's my Emperor's Champion, who took about 5 hours to complete. He's my favorite model (I'm so happy he's compulsory. ^_^ ) This is an Assault Terminator I also use as a Marshal (Or Lysander that one time that we don't talk about.) He gives my EC a serious running for "Favorite Model". And this little fellow is my "lowly" Terminator Command Squad Sergeant. He was a very quick conversion and has a very clean, dangerous "First Sergeant" feel to him. Can't wait to paint him. He'll probably be the only un-helmeted Templar in the army. Anyway, that's all for now! Questions and comments welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2903392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyb79 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 very nice look mate!! what head is that on your assault terminator? is there any chance you could take a shot from a different angle? I love the idea of using the chaos warrior legs, ive got a box filled with CW sprues, i might have to have a look Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2903814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Interesting work...though I can't help but feel some techniques are somehow...familiar :yes: Kidding aside, it looks pretty good. There's some ambitious freehanding in there, and the power effect on the Terminator's hammer looks good, which is always important ;). The one thing I would recommend working on is highlighting the offwhite spots. On some flatter surfaces like shoulder pads, you can get away with the two tone approach (one dark shade in recesses and flat, lighter tone above) and it'll look pretty good, but on more complex depths like robes and tabards, two tones can look kinda...meh. A quick highlight of bleached bone (maybe Khommando Khaki, seeing as you went with a particularly dark color) would do wonders on those spots. Also, why pure white on two guys' shoulders, then off white on everyone else? Are they the zealots of cleanliness? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2903902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vader Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They're looking badass Mook. Good stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2903995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 what head is that on your assault terminator? is there any chance you could take a shot from a different angle? The Terminator's head is a shaved down Bretonian Great Helm, they look amazing! Extra knightly, ya know? @Firepower: The one thing I would recommend working on is highlighting the offwhite spots... I definitely have to do that. The models with offwhite are my endeavor in that direction and I'm finding that I prefer the crisp, clean look of pure white. So those two Clean Marines will not be alone for long! What will I do about the offwhite guys? Probably keep them in their own Crusader Squad, ha. Thanks for the responses guys, input goes a long way toward keeping the project alive! During next week I think I'm going to touch up the highlights on the Champion, the Assault Terminator and Rogal Dorn. I've also had a lot of success with recess lining my brother's marines, so I'll be adding some of that (particularly to banners and Dorn). For now though I'm heading down to Ft. Benning, Georgia to see my younger brother for Basic Training Family Day. Have a good weekend all! Don't do too much muppet mowing. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-2904125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 So it's been a little while since I've updated this thing (October). I was going to see my brother for Family Day at Army Basic Training there. Since then, I watched him graduate, joined the National Guard and went through Basic Training myself. While there I wrote an amazing 1850 BT list from memory and so when I got home last week I decided to get back into my reboot. I'm attending a 1500pt Tournament this Sunday and here is a link to the list I'm running: Here we go! But on to the modeling! I've gotten my hands on a Grey Knights kit, a Dark Angels Veteran kit, and a Warriors of Chaos kit. Let me just say that using these kits, together with the BT upgrade, is a TON of fun and lets me come up with some really good looking models. I want to take a second to address the theme of my army though, because it's going to appear a little "all over the place" with the squads looking radically different. I think it's a good thing, because what I'm actually shooting for is to emulate the kind of unquiness you get when you call a Black Templar Crusade together. Lots of different Fighting Companies from different backgrounds and campaigns all taking a war footing together to murder the ever-loving-Emperor out of the enemies of Mankind. To that end, I really enjoy the differences, subtle and terribly obvious, that my army is coming to gain. However, I am using a fairly universal paint scheme and style to tie everything together and make it look like a proper Black Templar army. Enough talk, here are some pictures of my newest Crusader test models, plus a Coteaz conversion Marshal! (All very much WIP of course...) Here is a WIP of a Warriors of Chaos conversion I'm trying out. He still needs some GS work (fur to smooth the shoulder transitions, to make his weird little talisman into something suitably Imperial, etc). My biggest question is if I should just leave him in boots or try to cut/shave/sculpt something better as a permanent solution. I kind of dig the boots though. What do you think? Here's a link to the pictures that inspired this conversion: Right here at B&C Here is a Dark Angels Vets/WoC/Grey Knights/BT kitbash that I absolutely love. It needs some work and some love, but I could see a *lot* more of these guys coming soon. It's simple, elegant and really gives off a warrior monk murder monster vibe that I really enjoy. And here is some of my best work of the day! A really nice Marshal or Castellan conversion that I am enjoying the hell out of. I may mount him on a larger base to give him something suitably theatrical. As is stands I'm thinking of a flagstone surface with hints of violence and his own helmet resting at his feet, as if to say "And now I bask in the glow of total victory and the love of the God Emperor." I'm thinking that his shield will have a sweet crusade image emblazoned on it, or Imperial saints or something. His back still needs a suitable backpack, but that won't be hard to find. Anyway! Here's for your enjoyment guys, I know I'm loving them. If you have any criticisms (other than "mold lines" because these guys are still tac'd together!) please let me know! I'd love to hear it. Anyway, I'm going to get back to chores and then grapple with a Land Speeder Typhoon. Later! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Uriel Sanguis Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I love your models bro! They all look pretty good! Where'd you get the backpack or the cloak atleast? Cause those look really good on the space marines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_face Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 And here is some of my best work of the day! A really nice Marshal or Castellan conversion that I am enjoying the hell out of. I may mount him on a larger base to give him something suitably theatrical. As is stands I'm thinking of a flagstone surface with hints of violence and his own helmet resting at his feet, as if to say "And now I bask in the glow of total victory and the love of the God Emperor." you know he's gaggin for a fat templars belt buckle :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 you know he's gaggin for a fat templars belt buckle msn-wink.gif Definitely. I just have to figure out how to do it. I'm thinking of scraping it down to just the skull and then adding tiny GS Maltese cross flanges. But I don't know. Thoughts? Where'd you get the backpack or the cloak atleast? Cause those look really good on the space marines! The clock with the fur comes from the Warriors of Chaos kit. It's a Fantasy piece, and amazing. The chest and legs are a single piece, and the back, cloak and shoulders are all another. They're easy to work with, make the Marine half a head taller, and look awesome. You get 12 in a box! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The clock with the fur comes from the Warriors of Chaos kit. I'm sorry, you lost me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 The clock with the fur comes from the Warriors of Chaos kit. I'm sorry, you lost me. Just wait until they get their fancy paint job. :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3052951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthanor Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The clock with the fur comes from the Warriors of Chaos kit. I'm sorry, you lost me. Haha The cloak with the fur comes from the fantasy chaos warrior kit, which answers the question Brother Uriel was asking. Those cloaks work really well on space marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3053085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Haha The cloak with the fur comes from the fantasy chaos warrior kit, which answers the question Brother Uriel was asking. Those cloaks work really well on space marines. That's not what my concern is with. My concern is with the word in bold. Just wait until they get their fancy paint job. :) Paint can't cover up heresy. I wouldn't taint my Templar like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3053374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Scipio Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I've decided that my crusade could use some serious character, so I'm adding 20 new Crusaders! 8 were created using Dark Angels Veterans and BT bits, and the remaining 12 will be BT, Warriors of Chaos, and a tiny touch of Grey Knight! I've just finished the first of the new Warriors conversions! Since I just got a camera capable of taking pictures I may turn this into a functioning WIP blog. Either way, here is the first Initiate! I'm debating keeping the WoC shield because for the rest of my army I use them as Storm Shields. I don't want to confuse anyone. Something else I've been considering is using vanilla space marine heads, but with crests made from Dire Avengers. Do you think using the WoC heads would be too few Templar-y bits? Thoughts? Exactly how I want to build my Sgt. with shield for my command squad, altough mine gets a powerhammer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3054093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Mook Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Exactly how I want to build my Sgt. with shield for my command squad, altough mine gets a powerhammer. The hammer would look awesome as well, Scipio. Good choice! :lol: Anyway, 1500pt Tournament today! Wish me luck, the list over over yonder Pics of some new Neophytes and such, and battle reports, when I return! Wish me luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240093-crusade-reboot/#findComment-3054825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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