Conquer the universe! Pre-heresy space marines.

[Olis]

I wish I had that sort of boss... I feel jealous. :)

[the damned artificer]

I wish I had that sort of boss... I feel jealous. :D

He is a great boss, I'll tell you that :)

 

A small update:

 

I've finally got my finecast re-replacements and they look way better than he first replacements :lol:

So I've started work on the commander for the army, and here's the first WIP pic of him, he's based on the Sicarius model as I always liked his armour and it was the best "show off" cape available. Concerning the Aquila I have chosen to use the shoulderpad as it is written several places that even though the Aquila was not in common use by the legions prior to the heresy, noted heroes and high standing astartes wore it as a sign of their heroic deeds, and it was usually bestowed as an honour mark for extreme valour.

 

I'm contemplating using him as Sigismund, as I feel he has the right sense of ornamentation, and the description of his looks is also very sparse. It only says he has dark blonde hair and remarks upon his facial features on an overall level. But to be honest I'm not sure I'll give him hair, he might end up being the 2nd company captain, or be the first captain in service before Sigismund, and then have Sigismund as a sergeant or a champion in the commanders command squad as I also bought the emperors champion model, which has potential of being a great Sigismund model as well, and I might go with that option, as it gives me a bit more freedom in making up fluff for the army as it is meant to be set in the middle of the great crusade, just as the mkIV suits were starting to be field tested, and will restrict the army to MK I, II, III and IV suits. The mkI element will be as armour pieces incorporated into newer suits of mkII and III like the torso of my standard bearer.

 

Anyway, on to the picture:

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/WIPcommander.jpg

 

C&c is more than welcome :D

[the damned artificer]

And finally an update on the progress of Dorn's all star team :D

 

First off is a picture of my first tac squad in the process of getting all yellowed up.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-PIP.jpg

 

Then there's a second tac squad under way, I might eventually upgrade to 10 man squads, but for now they'll only count 5 each.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP7.jpg

 

Then there's a scout squad under way, still need to remove some chest aquillas and add some more detail to them (like the heavy weapon :shifty: )

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP2.jpg

 

That's the core troops so far. Before I continue I'd like to sum up the premises for this army as it is important to me to emphasize that this is a PRE-heresy army, which is to say it is to be depicted as an army during the great crusade, prior to the betrayal of Horus Lupercal, and as such will have no traitor elements as there haven't been any dodgy business going on yet (well at least not any chaos related at least :P ).

 

I like all the pre-heresy armies around but most of them are described as being pre-heresy even though they include elements from the fluff from the heresy itself, so I find most of them are mislabelled and should be called heresy era armies seeing as they are set in the heresy era itself.

 

My army is set somewhere in the middle of the great crusade, and theres several reasons for that:

 

1. I can choose to have members of any of the 18 known legions among my troops and not just the ones that stayed loyal, this is great as I plan on making a few members of different legions appear to mingle with the squads and draw upon the brotherhood inter legion bonding that is referred to in Descent of Angels and Fallen angels.

 

2. I can make Sigismund before his ascending to first captain (which I have) and have him be the legion champion and the next in line to take up the mantle as first captain when the current first captain will no longer be able to. This is also because I wanted an IF army that didn't have Sigismund as their commander but could still be the first company.

 

This should help to understand the next pictures as they are rooted strongly in my design premises for the army.

 

So on with the miniatures:

 

The command squad:

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP1.jpg

 

And sigismund, the champion of the mighty VII Legio Astartes, personal favourite of the Lord Primarch Rogal Dorn.

He acts as both the company champion and sergeant of the sternguard (honour guard)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP5.jpg

 

The legions most revered standard, the Roma, borne by the first company standard bearer.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP8.jpg

 

The company chaplain.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP3.jpg

 

The sternguard, the personal honour guard of the first captain.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP4.jpg

 

And one of the sternguard as I really like how he's turning out.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP6.jpg

 

That's it for now, hopefully I'll have some more updates soon.

[Lachdannan]

Very cool looking squads. Liking the Sternguard especially. Captain is a great model as well. Will be interested in seeing how your Sigismund turns out, I did mine quite different.

[Andrew J]

Wow love the conversions you have going on there. I see you use a lot of FW heads. I dont know if that chappy looks chaplainy enough for me though. Maybe add some skulls somewhere? Or is preheresy no skulls?

[Hyaenidae]

I don't know why, but that last sternguard just jumps out at me. This whole project is looking very cool, keep up the great work

[the damned artificer]

Very cool looking squads. Liking the Sternguard especially. Captain is a great model as well. Will be interested in seeing how your Sigismund turns out, I did mine quite different.

Yeah yours is great, I just really wanted to pimp the EC model out to be Sigismund, and there's pics on the progress in this post :) And thanks :confused:

 

Wow love the conversions you have going on there. I see you use a lot of FW heads. I dont know if that chappy looks chaplainy enough for me though. Maybe add some skulls somewhere? Or is preheresy no skulls?

The plan is to give him a helmet on his belt, and it'll of course be a classical skull faced one, and I think the overall feel of him as a chaplain will improve once he's painted black, but I might ad some skulls too, everybody loves skulls, aye ;)

 

 

I don't know why, but that last sternguard just jumps out at me. This whole project is looking very cool, keep up the great work

Thanks man, I'll try and keep up the standard :)

 

 

 

Small update gents :D

 

Not much, but the first one is a lysander model :D

 

The general idea is that he'll be a commander in terminator armour, having his storm shield and thunder hammer, and probably an extra set of magnetized arms for showing off, maybe a sword or something. The shoulderpad is my prototype from the earlier pics and acts as a stand in atm to get a feel of how he'll look once he's pre-heresy pimped.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/termicap.jpg

 

And Sigismund finally got his proper shield, a friend of mine hooked me up with some fw brass etch to pimp him out, but he is very BT'ish right now and it'll be toned down with some more IF symbols and some other detail work like some scrolls to cover up the large 'TEMPLARS' on his shield. He's still very much a WIP.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/sigismund20.jpg

 

So what do guys think?

[the damned artificer]

A few more updates, just got my hands on another model today which will be used for the army. It's a second hand master of the armoury and he's been stripped clean. Unfortunately he didn't have his sword or the original head, but I wasn't planning on using those parts anyways, he will be a member of the honour guard/sternguard.

 

Untill I get my next batch of fw parts from ebay he's gonna have this helmet, but he'll probably have it replaced with one of the red scorpion helmets. I have not yet decided how he'll be armed, but a sword could be nice.Also I plan on removing his chest eagle and the crux terminatus on his shoulder to replace with legion symbols instead.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1629.jpg

 

He'll be accompanied by this guy in as the next honour guard model is one I've wanted to do for a long time. He's based on the sergeant Chronus model as I've never liked the actual model, but the armour is just so cool. And seeing as I now had a very nice powerfist for him I found it was time to do the model the justice it deserves. As with all the other models he'll receive some IF iconography and fancy shiney stuff to mark him out as an honoured astartes.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1621.jpg

 

And then I played a bit more with the lysander model, still only tac'ed together as I haven't decided yet how he will finally look.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1628.jpg

[Redemption2994]

Gosh, Lysander is wicked imposing. Like a steam roller about to run over a baby carriage :angry: The model itself looks incredibly wide/broad. I'd have to see him further along to get a true opinion, but I loveee the conversions you've done for the Honor Guard. The diversity adds so much character.

 

I as a Chaos player have much disdain for the Yellow Marines, but you've definitely pulled the color off that's for sure.

[Dosjetka]

I'm loving the new additions to your army :angry: The models are really quite impressive! Can't wait to see some paint on the latest models :)

 

Ludovic

[the damned artificer]

Gosh, Lysander is wicked imposing. Like a steam roller about to run over a baby carriage :D The model itself looks incredibly wide/broad. I'd have to see him further along to get a true opinion, but I loveee the conversions you've done for the Honor Guard. The diversity adds so much character.

 

I as a Chaos player have much disdain for the Yellow Marines, but you've definitely pulled the color off that's for sure.

Yeah the lysander model is in a very early state so far and he might get a completely different look when I'm done with him, the pics are only to give a sense of what the model could look like :) Abd thanks, the honour guard is the outlet for all the cool ideas I've had bunched up for the last couple of years so I'm glad to get some nice feedback on them :D

 

I'm loving the new additions to your army :P The models are really quite impressive! Can't wait to see some paint on the latest models ;)

 

Ludovic

Thanks man, I'm looking forward to painting them as well but there's the matter of a GK commission that needs to be dealt with first :D

[the damned artificer]

Long time since I last updated this, but I got a spur of the moment mini built today for the veterans.

 

Not a difficult conversion at all, but I'd wanted to do a marine with that axe for some time now and this was the pose that kept popping up in my mind. It required me to switch the hand on the handle from a left to a right but it wasn't too hard to do. Hope you like him so far, like the rest of them he'll have a lot more detail when I get around to it :)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/vet1.jpg

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/vet2.jpg

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/vet3.jpg

 

Ohh yeah, and yesterday I had a bit of fun with my razorsaw and some glue :chrome: This was the result:

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/wreck.jpg

 

Still needs some gap filling and some sand before it's ready to paint, and I might ad a few dead pilots to it as well and maybe kit it out a bit to look like a cargo shuttle or something like that :)

 

That's it for now, hopefully there'll be more soon ;)

[Dosjetka]

Looking forward to seeing all of these beautiful conversions all painted up B)

 

Keep up the terrific work!

 

Ludovic

[lokkorex]

your stuff looks ace, looking forward to seeing the emperors praetorians painted.

[augustmanifesto]

man those marines only took you two hours each? jeesus....i need to quicken my pace...

[Emperors Immortals]

I dislike the Spade on some of the models but they look awesome ;)

The ace of spade is one of my favourite symbols, and it just truck me that I could use it here and there to symbolize the fact that they are a chapter hailing from terra and the worlds around it, and the symbol might still flourish among terran families even though the original meaning of the symbol has been lost for thousands of years. I imagine it as part of a high standing terran family's family heraldry and some of the IF's that hail from this family honor them by incorporating their family heraldry so that others can see what glories their sons have aspired as astartes ;)

 

Because i loooove your work, and you love the spade symbol, here is a fluff-based justification;

 

In "Horus Rising"(pg 60-62), there is a scene where a game called "cups" is played between the IG escort and the Iterator Memed on-planet in teh great crusade

 

’

‘This is an old game,’ Memed said, ‘which I’m sure you will enjoy. It dates back a long way, its origins lost in the very beginnings of Old Night. I have researched it, and I understand it was popular amongst the peoples of Ancient Merica, and also the tribes of the Franc.....‘The suits correspond,’ he said, as if beginning a lecture, ‘to the layers of society back then. Swords stand for the warrior aristocracy; cups, or chalices, for the ancient priesthood; diamonds, or coins, for the merchant classes; and baton clubs for the worker caste…

 

So its VERY possible the Spade symbol was known at least partly for what it was amongst the Elite, the symbol of clerical authority (1st estate -in the sense of being the Emperors praetorian gaurd and protcetors of his temporal authority) and apart from, though equal to, the ruling aristocracy (2nd estate) and general populace (3rd estate) - and therefore corresponds exactly to your background.

 

/bow.

[verpine]

A bit late to say this, but that is the most beautiful Contemptor I've seen.

[the damned artificer]

Looking forward to seeing all of these beautiful conversions all painted up ;)

 

Keep up the terrific work!

 

Ludovic

Thanks man, unfortunately the painting is being postponed due to a major commission I'm working on, but I have just finished some more builds :D

 

your stuff looks ace, looking forward to seeing the emperors praetorians painted.

Thanks :)

 

man those marines only took you two hours each? jeesus....i need to quicken my pace...

Hehe an airbrush helps ;) that and 12 years of painting experience :P

 

I dislike the Spade on some of the models but they look awesome :D

The ace of spade is one of my favourite symbols, and it just truck me that I could use it here and there to symbolize the fact that they are a chapter hailing from terra and the worlds around it, and the symbol might still flourish among terran families even though the original meaning of the symbol has been lost for thousands of years. I imagine it as part of a high standing terran family's family heraldry and some of the IF's that hail from this family honor them by incorporating their family heraldry so that others can see what glories their sons have aspired as astartes :)

 

Because i loooove your work, and you love the spade symbol, here is a fluff-based justification;

 

In "Horus Rising"(pg 60-62), there is a scene where a game called "cups" is played between the IG escort and the Iterator Memed on-planet in teh great crusade

 

’

‘This is an old game,’ Memed said, ‘which I’m sure you will enjoy. It dates back a long way, its origins lost in the very beginnings of Old Night. I have researched it, and I understand it was popular amongst the peoples of Ancient Merica, and also the tribes of the Franc.....‘The suits correspond,’ he said, as if beginning a lecture, ‘to the layers of society back then. Swords stand for the warrior aristocracy; cups, or chalices, for the ancient priesthood; diamonds, or coins, for the merchant classes; and baton clubs for the worker caste…

 

So its VERY possible the Spade symbol was known at least partly for what it was amongst the Elite, the symbol of clerical authority (1st estate -in the sense of being the Emperors praetorian gaurd and protcetors of his temporal authority) and apart from, though equal to, the ruling aristocracy (2nd estate) and general populace (3rd estate) - and therefore corresponds exactly to your background.

 

/bow.

Wauw, I'm very impressed by the effort you have put into this and thank you very much! This is so completely awesome! I'm very flattered that you like my work enough to go to these lengths to suport my homebrew fluff aspects by hard facts :D I really hope you like my next update!

 

A bit late to say this, but that is the most beautiful Contemptor I've seen.

Thank you, it is one of my favourite models of the ones I have painted.

 

 

 

Update time!

 

I've had time to do some more modelling and have actually managed to finish my mk II land speeder and have it undercoated :D I also bought some goodies to update my chaplain, and have also updated my apothecary.

 

Chaplain:

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1782copy.jpg

I have fiwed the miscast collar and the stud on his shoulder with some green stuff, but not until after I took the pictures.

 

 

Apothecary:

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1778copy.jpg

Some more progress on the legions senior medic, he still needs some green stuff work.

 

And a picture of a building I'm working on for a CoD table, once it's finished and this army is too I'll have a load of pics taken of the army in urban surroundings.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1795.jpg

 

 

And now for my little love project, my Mk II landspeeder:

 

It's built from a mix between a land speeder storm and a regular land speeder with the seats and engine exhausts from an original 2nd ed land speeder. There's also parts from numerous other kits in there, I'll give it a rundown if any one is interested.

It will be put on a 60mm base in style with the one on my contemptor, and I might build something elaborate on the base since there won't be any models standing directly on it.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1760copy.jpg

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1764copy.jpg

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1766copy.jpg

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1769copy.jpg

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1770copy.jpg

 

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/DSCN1775copy.jpg

 

 

 

Next week I'll get my tartaros terminators, and I'll try and have an update ASAP with them :)

 

That's it for now, I'll have to get back to commission work again so I can fund some more yellow armour!

[alejandrinus]

Fantastic army, i like every single conversion you do, especially your Sternguard Squad, the Mark II land speeder and the wip lysander, and also your painting is top noch. May I ask your recipe for the basing on your comteptor, specially the stone area. Thanks in advance

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Those look like Vanguard to me... but they also look amazing, like the rest of this force ;)

[brother varen]

greetings damned artificer,

 

great work on your army. I am really loving your Mk 2 landspeeder. Can you give a parts list and any pictures of putting it together? so far it is the best one i have seen. definitly want some for my pre-hersey imperial fists. keep up the great work.

[the damned artificer]

Fantastic army, i like every single conversion you do, especially your Sternguard Squad, the Mark II land speeder and the wip lysander, and also your painting is top noch. May I ask your recipe for the basing on your comteptor, specially the stone area. Thanks in advance

Thanks man :P Yeah, the base of the contemptor is decorated with pieces of plaster (I think it's called stone plaster, it's harder than regular plaster and is great for these kind of things) sand and some resin and plastic pieces. I start by gluing down the chunks of plaster and then I add the rest of the stuff like sand and other pieces of detail. It's actually really easy ;)

 

Those look like Vanguard to me... but they also look amazing, like the rest of this force ;)

Hehe can never figure out which is which XD That's why they are labeled 'veterans' if anyone asks :P

 

greetings damned artificer,

 

great work on your army. I am really loving your Mk 2 landspeeder. Can you give a parts list and any pictures of putting it together? so far it is the best one i have seen. definitly want some for my pre-hersey imperial fists. keep up the great work.

Unfortunately I forgot to take wip pictures before I reached this state (I know, shame on me) But I'll compile a list of bits and a rough description of the assembly and post it here fo you later ;) And thanks for the comment.

[ephrael]

Excellent work all around. I would also like a parts rundown on the land speeder if you don't mind.

[alejandrinus]

Thanks for the answer, damned artificier, mind you share the painting recipe for stone area of the base, I really like that style of stone it seems khemri brown higlited with dheneb stone ? Thanks in advance. :yes:

[The_Chaplain]

And one of the sternguard as I really like how he's turning out.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Pre-heresy%20Imperial%20Fists/IF-WIP6.jpg

 

That's it for now, hopefully I'll have some more updates soon.

 

Where is that powerfist from? That's a choice bit