War Angel Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 jaw drop. i may buy a titan one day because of you. not sure ill ever get to use it. but i might have it all the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3114454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 I wonder if I should hit up FW for a sales commission? Yeah right fat chance. And you do know that you can't buy a Warlord Titan.....................yet. Hmmm this doesn't bear a close inspection. I brushed the piece with a shoe brush to see if I could accentuate the relief and the skull looks a bit flawed at close range highlighted. The lens rim also has to be thinned down a tad. This is the best close up I've managed with this camera and wouldn't you know it's of dubious work. Faa! http://i.imgur.com/fOi2g.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fOi2gl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xAcTi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xAcTil.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4DiaV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4DiaVl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3114512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Silvernale Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Sometimes a project can get too much detail =D (btw I'm totally jealous of your skill) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3115078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Detail is was defines these models especially the large Lucius Titans. Acres of unrelieved flat sheets would be boring indeed. Why didn't you use the Adeptus Symbol off the GW Manufactorum? That's the one I copied albeit 1/2 the size. http://i.imgur.com/prU6y.jpg http://i.imgur.com/prU6yl.jpg The whole emblem is as small as my thumbnail Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3116294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 You sir are quite nutty but your crazy work is something to behold. I only wish I could see this sucker finished in person...far far in the future it seems. All that detail takes forever but it is soooo worth it in the end. Fine sir, keep up the good work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3116846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Time to break out the foam board mock up I made so many months ago and see where I went wrong. At that time I was going for a foam Warlord with a styrene veneer and after I totally miscalculated the legs I put the whole project on hold until I had some decent measurements. I'm surprised how close I came to duplicating my target size as both of these models were built with absolutely no reference to the other. On the negative side the overall height with the knees locked in the following images will yield a 29 inch Warlord which is an inch taller than the DS model and 3 inches taller than my amended target height and 5 inches taller than my original estimation! Egad! http://i.imgur.com/K5tnv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/K5tnvl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/b5816.jpg http://i.imgur.com/b5816l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lxvqG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lxvqGl.jpg Granted the legs as they are pictured look a bit stilted (groan) and with knees flexed and stepping out in a dynamic pose the mean height should approximate DS's model but it will make any subsequent Emperor titans that much larger and impractical for the average battleboard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Oh no. An Emperor titan will be impractical. Who knew? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Oh no. An Emperor titan will be impractical. Who knew? ;) This project is nucking futs. In the best of ways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 On another forum I received the following critique: I feel like the mock-up body is maybe 15-20% too big Good, an honest critique. Let's see what it would look like with 10 - 15 - and 20% smaller. http://i.imgur.com/uMSJ9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uMSJ9l.jpg 100% http://i.imgur.com/UL2sB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UL2sBl.jpg 10% smaller http://i.imgur.com/izAZc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/izAZcl.jpg 15% smaller http://i.imgur.com/3f3KG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3f3KGl.jpg 20% smaller I certainly don't want to have to rebuild the body smaller if I can get away with it. Better to establish the right size on the drawing board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think the 15% smaller is right. One of the things I noticed in building titans for Dawn of War, was that thay all have intersecting toes with the legs straight as you've pictured. Bringing the hips in an inch on each side will do it, then John Wayne it up and it should look bang on I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I appreciate the input Thanks. Nows your chance to participate in this build. Your input will be greatly appreciated.......... The torso pictured is just a foam board mockup; once I have established a size I'll duplicate the foam board version in styrene. And don't forget I intend to install a complete compartmented interior so getting the size of the torso right is paramount at the moment. Photoimpacted in carapace and superstructure at 100, 90, and 85 percent the 80% being ridiculously too small http://i.imgur.com/g1IVN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/g1IVNl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/lmBdQl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/u1UpQl.jpg 100%................................................90%.................................................85% In the cold light of day I am leaning towards 90% Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3119536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 The much anticipated torso build finally; I shall start with the Engineering level with the floor being the top of the planetary mechanism body rotation plate. I have reduced the overall size 10% witness the excess outside the gear plate uprights. The center console/axle support is one of the drums left over from a failed sleeve originally earmarked for the hip axles. That will support the center control monitor consoles in the center well. http://i.imgur.com/vDp8R.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vDp8Rl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3120089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 The majority consensus is 90% is the way to go: The Giant Washer TGW (AKA "The planetary mechanism body rotation plate") is the part I am working on at present. It will supply the Engineering/Logistics compartment ELC with a floor and have a hatch for access to the planetary gears and pelvic block/rear gunner platform. The central shaft housing will contain the fiber optic cables for the Integrated Logistics Systems ILS and the forward deck of the compartment will have the Terrain Mapping Computer TMC and Monitor to ensure proper Stable Footing SFM for the vehicle. On either side will be view ports to maintain a first hand view of the legs as a back up in case the monitors are scrambled :cuss*. Thanks to Bibbles suggestion I now have ample room to install all these components. http://i.imgur.com/ElVmi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ElVmil.jpg There is no I in engineering.......er.... well there is but you know what I mean :D *Watch The Footing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3120455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 I have been debating how to shorten the upper legs without disturbing too much of the detail. I've known for quite some time that the thigh components were a bit too long. Your reply among others prompted me to take action so yesterday and today I removed the knee discs and a bit of the detail above the axle and cut and re-drilled the axle holes 1 centimeter higher. This necessitated shortening the disc side guides and flex limit stops and shortening the zipper-like trim one set of darts front and back 1 centimeter as well. I wouldn't put too much faith in the Epic model as the leg components are far too bulky if translated into 28 MM scale. The epic model is fine for overall dimensions i.e. ratio of head to torso (even that is a bit small IHO) and leg length to torso but thigh 10 MM thick would appear ungainly. The overall effect is positive and I am in the process of reassembling the structure. Thanks for your support. Pictures later.................... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3122183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think it looks great and as for the hight all the pics I'm seen make these things out to be so big the make a warhound look like a Ratling next to a Drednought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3122253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/TPh2f.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TPh2fl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OtZvu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OtZvul.jpg Alrighty then back together again and I may be imagining it but removing that centimeter gives this a more powerful look now although a might shorter the aura of menace is more apparent. http://i.imgur.com/452b7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/452b7l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/A7s9m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/A7s9ml.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3122314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 WOW! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3122849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 You do have good friends expert in the practice of mould making and resin model casting don't you? Please say yes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3122886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Silvernale Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Is this going to be remote controlled like those little dancing robots? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3123299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Haduwig Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Edit : Deleted my post as i was waaaay too slow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3123323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 No I'm afraid it's just gonna stand there and I foresee no end of litigation were I to attempt to cast this for profit besides do you have any idea how much this would weigh if cast from resin. I'd say as it is right now it is 80% hollow and it masses 2.2 kilo. about 5 pounds and its only half done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3123327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Getting the face of the torso at the right angle took some doing. I started at what I thought was the proper angle of 10° but it was way too much. After much trial and error I arrive at this which seems correct I shouldn't think it was completely vertical as in some Warlords I've seen but too much angle would over balance it front heavy besides not aesthetically pleasing. http://i.imgur.com/Na6G3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Na6G3l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SIftB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SIftBl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SHf2m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SHf2ml.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9y3T7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9y3T7l.jpg I wonder how much macho aesthetics is incorporated in real military hardware I mean you don't see any assault rubber duckies do you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3123513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearingtheword Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Absolutely impressive! And yes the shortened upper legs certainly give it a meatier, meaner look! Can't wait to see more! ~BtW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3123581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 How not to build a Titan First don't have any plan. Second don't have any diagrams. Third don't have any conception of what you are attempting. Fourth don't bother to draw any of the above. Finally build the whole damned thing inside out so when you find you did make a mistake all the interior work is wasted. Anyway I'm about to cut the slot for the command center so I figure it's a good time for some catchup pictures. http://i.imgur.com/imkmz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/imkmzl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GIyOw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GIyOwl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3125576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 The previous posts were not a complaint or a lament but a public service note to anyone attempting to build a Titan. The intelligent modeler doesn't do things the way I do. Witness, I haven't the vaguest idea were anything goes in the interior and just a hint of intuition on the relative size of the interior compartments. I feel the engineering department would be low and centrally located consuming two levels. The magazine storage for non-energy weapons would be above the armament on each side and a belt feed to the firing chamber. There would probably be a fire/targeting control room for each weapon. The Bridge/Command deck behind the cockpit is a gimme likewise the void generator placement above the carapace shoulders. So with that in mind the basic internal structure will be as imaged below. http://i.imgur.com/Pug9f.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Pug9fl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aZBMh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aZBMhl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HfjgM.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HfjgMl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nZH84.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nZH84l.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/6/#findComment-3126446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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