JarrodB Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Hi Guys, Slowly getting my new project together, but one of my questions is exactly when did the DA start wearing robes over their PA? I've read both HH DA novels and can imagine senior brothers wearing them for ceremonial events prior to the rebellion on Caliban, but do you think that a normal brother would wear them prior to the HH? Thinking of doing some pre HH brothers and would love to have a robed DA, but not if its going to break canon entirely. BTW, I'm not massively worried about canon since its my vision of the universe, but compliance can't hurt (I'm sure that's what a commissar says pre-ventilating a guardsmans head). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 artwork shows robes as far back as The Great Crusade, maybe even before the finding of the Lion, but I would hazard that it was introduced by the Brothers from Caliban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Librarian Hesperos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The DA have always worn the robes. It was a symbol of brotherhood from The Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I say you are safe with robes for pre heresy. In fact, here is some inspiration to get you going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Like they have all said. According to Fluff pretty much always from the time of the Knightly orders on Caliban. Models wise it was in 2nd ed. I believe for a few models like Azrael and the rest of the Special Characters crew that they started making models with robes For DA. So, like they said, Pre-Heresy models more than fine having guys with robes or surplices :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well, the Legion did not originate from Caliban. Although I agree that the robes originate from the Calibanite Order, the DAs must have adopted them after the Lion assumed formal command of the Legion. So for some time in (the best part of?) the Crusade the DAs did not have the robes... But who wants to model pre-Lion DAs? :cuss EDIT: In the Order all knights were allowed to wear the robes. It was not a sign of relative seniority. The Order was was a very egaliterean organization (once you were a knight that is). In the Legion during the Great Crusade there were a lot of Terrans (the majority probably) that robes or other Caliban-specific heraldy meant nothing to them. Since it was not official to wear them I'd say it's up to you to make a pre-Heresy force with any mix of robed/non-robed marines. In a Calibanite-heavy force all marines could wear robes. In fact the same can be said for 40k DAs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 EDIT: In the Order all knights were allowed to wear the robes. It was not a sign of relative seniority. The Order was was a very egaliterean organization (once you were a knight that is). a Not quite...In Fallen Angels The Lion talks of higher levels of knowledge and, presumably, ranking within the Order. But, yes, it was a very egalitarian Order, especially compared to the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 EDIT: In the Order all knights were allowed to wear the robes. It was not a sign of relative seniority. The Order was was a very egaliterean organization (once you were a knight that is). a Not quite...In Fallen Angels The Lion talks of higher levels of knowledge and, presumably, ranking within the Order. But, yes, it was a very egalitarian Order, especially compared to the others. Fair point. I am not disputing there was hierarchy in the Order. I'm just saying it was not denoted through the robes. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 fair enough Captain! ^_^ An easy way for Pre-Heresy to distinguish calibanites from Terrans is wings and Robes on the Caliban Marines and normal for the Terrans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 fair enough Captain! :) An easy way for Pre-Heresy to distinguish calibanites from Terrans is wings and Robes on the Caliban Marines and normal for the Terrans I believe that is what was done in the thread I linked above if you manage to get through all the pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 yes it was, its an amazing log, heaps of inspiration for anyone who wants to do a pre-Heresy. Though, I was never sold on his Lion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I agree. It's still a great interpretation as far execution goes, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexenes Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 When did DA start wearing robes? ...when GW retconned DA in 2nd Ed.wih Codex:Angels of Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 IMO, the DA were wearing robes in V2... And GW did not put out the figures till much later (V.3?) So here is the question: When did GW actually start selling DA in Robes??? Whats the year??? I bought my first DA specific Squad in 2004. If you can look back at past Codi you will observe that only specific IC's were in robes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 When did DA start wearing robes? ...when GW actually gave a defined character to DA in 2nd Ed.wih Codex:Angels of Death. There. I fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 When did Dark Angels start wearing robes? Immediately after taking a bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 When did Dark Angels start wearing robes? Immediately after taking a bath. Then by this logic the only other chapter that bathes must be the templars since they have towels hanging from them. I never realized we were the only clean chapters :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I say you are safe with robes for pre heresy. In fact, here is some inspiration to get you going. Cool pic to bad the "Robes" are more cloak or cape then robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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