Tyrannicide Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Awesome to see the Praetors of Orpheus! They look great, love the weathering. Now something that's a little bewildering.... I originally thought of naming my own dakka Predator the Wrath of Sejanus. Seems that belongs to the boys in blue and white now. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Since you're both 2nd Founding, you could say that after a joint operation of both your Companies, a pair of tanks were commisioned after a mixed squad of both your Chapters (named 'Sejanus') died: seizing a hive gate, killed the ork warlord, slaughtered a chaos lord, or generally saved both companies, etc, etc. It'd be a cool tie in.... :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Your weathering just keeps getting better! Loving those rust streaks Loving those rust streaks Forgot to comment on these: the rust streaks were really believable! I feel like that's a majorly underused technique for weathering that would show up all over the place in real life. Nice job! Thanks y'all. They were in fact just a couple layers if gryphonne sepia painted directly over the drybrushed mud. These look great, just how I envisioned them from the original 5th edition Codex background. The Mars link was why I wanted to have my lot as successors of a UM 2nd Founding, as I wanted to use lots of old FW type kit. I am contemplating changing to Imperial Fists because for their usual inexplicable reasons GW have changed the chapter in the digital codex to just making them excessively codex rigid to the point of it being detrimental and there is no mention of Mars at all :( If I was you I'd just go with the original background or trying to rationalise both into one. Although extreme AdMec links and extreme codex adeherence will need some creativity. Based on your models I don't see that being a problem :) Thanks for the kind words Marius. It's very disheartening to know of the codex change you mentioned. This was the digital version you were talking about right? For those of you who may have missed it, Marius let me know that the ties between Praetors of Orpheus and adeptus mechanicus have been retconned out of GW lore. This was totally one of the reasons I chose them, but I think I can still make it work. In fact it wasn't necessarily ties with AM that the Praetors had, it was that their "technological lore" was on par with the AM's. I guess I've got some fluff work to do in the future. Awesome to see the Praetors of Orpheus! They look great, love the weathering. Now something that's a little bewildering.... I originally thought of naming my own dakka Predator the Wrath of Sejanus. Seems that belongs to the boys in blue and white now. :D Thanks! That us kinda weird though right? Maybe it's just a cool name and great minds think alike? If you want inspiration for names, wikipedia the praetorian guard. There is a list of know members or leaders or something.its if cool names there. What's your chapter by the way? 1000heathens has a great idea. Since you're both 2nd Founding, you could say that after a joint operation of both your Companies, a pair of tanks were commisioned after a mixed squad of both your Chapters (named 'Sejanus') died: seizing a hive gate, killed the ork warlord, slaughtered a chaos lord, or generally saved both companies, etc, etc. It'd be a cool tie in.... :lol: This is an awesome idea, something I might be inspired to write a short fluff piece about if there is ever enough time. Would sejanus be the sergeant of the squad? From which chapter do you think he should be? Thanks again for looking everyone. Terminators are in their way. -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 These are looking really great. I would suggest putting some black or gold on the boltguns since they seem a bit plain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 That's a pretty cool idea, heathens. I could totally see it working. Considering that the Praetors and Genesis Chapter (what I play) are both part of the Primogenitors it's even more feasible! I'm looking forward to seeing what you're capable of with Terminators, Hwarang. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 These are looking really great. I would suggest putting some black or gold on the boltguns since they seem a bit plain right now. Yeah, this is a great idea. Honestly, it was shear laziness that I tried to write off as realism. I'll go back and paint the bolter casings black when I get a chance, probably over the weekend sometime. Thanks for pointing it out. Unfortunately, the Terminators suffer from the same problem, but alas. So I decided to go ahead and matte varnish these guys too, and I took some pre- and post- pics. Please let me know what y'all think of the difference, if you notice anyway. I'm not very happy with the matte varnish, honestly, but I figure I'm committed to it now that I have already used it on my predator. Also, for some reason the picture quality on the terminators is much worse than the other pictures. I've been using my phone (HTC Thunderbolt) all along, and have been happy with them so far. I ran them through irfanview for auto color correct and resizing, just as I've done with my others, but the photo quality still doesn't seem as good to me for some reason. Perhaps they are just shaped oddly and the light reflected differently. Anyway, on to the pre-matte varnish pics... Cyclone Missile Launcher Dude: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/CycloneTerminatorPre-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/CycloneTerminatorPre-Matte02.jpg Chain Fist Dudes: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator2Pre-Matte02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator2Pre-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator1Pre-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator1Pre-Matte02.jpg Regular Dude: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/TerminatorPre-Matte.jpg Sergeant Laco: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/TerminatorSergeantLacoPre-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/TerminatorSergeantLacoPre-Matte02.jpg And now the post-matte varnish pics... Cyclone Missile Launcher Dude: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/CycloneTerminatorPost-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/CycloneTerminatorPost-Matte02.jpg Chain Fist Dudes: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator2Post-Matte01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/ChainFistTerminator1Post-Matte01.jpg Regular Dude: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/TerminatorPost-Matte.jpg Sergeant Laco: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/TerminatorSergeantLacoPost-Matte01.jpg Anyway, despite my displeasure with the matte varnish, I'm happy with guys. I like how they look on the table top in a group. As always, C&C very welcome and much appreciated. -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Okay, I have to ask ... did you paint that on there or just rub them in the mud? Cause it looks so real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Forge Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Really liking your Praetors, the models just keep getting better! I spy a techmarine servo-harnesses as arms on those terminators... now that's how Praetors should be! I can't wait to see your Combi-Plasma guy painted up, looks like he'd make an awesome HQ model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Is the slight green tinge in the blue due to the lighting or is it really like that? I love your Praetors, by the way, just enough bionics and a great gritty feel :) Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thanks for the kind words Marius. It's very disheartening to know of the codex change you mentioned. This was the digital version you were talking about right? For those of you who may have missed it, Marius let me know that the ties between Praetors of Orpheus and adeptus mechanicus have been retconned out of GW lore. This was totally one of the reasons I chose them, but I think I can still make it work. In fact it wasn't necessarily ties with AM that the Praetors had, it was that their "technological lore" was on par with the AM's. I guess I've got some fluff work to do in the future. Your welcome, they really do look great, exactly how I envisioned them from when I did my original "looking for a Primogenitor Dad" research :) Hopefully my musings help. I really was set on these guys as the source of my Chapters geneseed but you know GW :( Silly buggers couldn't quality assure themselves out of a wet paper bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thanks for the kind words Marius. It's very disheartening to know of the codex change you mentioned. This was the digital version you were talking about right? For those of you who may have missed it, Marius let me know that the ties between Praetors of Orpheus and adeptus mechanicus have been retconned out of GW lore. Hasn't been retconned out, just not mentioned in the update. Doesn't meant they still don't have strong ties to the AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 The white is just ceramite white with a wash and highlight. I used sepia and mud washses in small places for the grime. The blue is army painter crystal blue with highlights of citadel ice blue. What kind of wash if I may ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Okay, I have to ask ... did you paint that on there or just rub them in the mud? Cause it looks so real. Thanks (I think?). Really liking your Praetors, the models just keep getting better!I spy a techmarine servo-harnesses as arms on those terminators... now that's how Praetors should be! I can't wait to see your Combi-Plasma guy painted up, looks like he'd make an awesome HQ model. The terminator's bionic arm is actually from one of the servitors, but yeah, same kit. Is the slight green tinge in the blue due to the lighting or is it really like that? I love your Praetors, by the way, just enough bionics and a great gritty feel :) Ludovic Thanks! I'm not sure about the green tinge...must just be the lighting. Or maybe the quickshade? See below. I don't really notice it though on the "live" models. Thanks for the kind words Marius. It's very disheartening to know of the codex change you mentioned. This was the digital version you were talking about right? For those of you who may have missed it, Marius let me know that the ties between Praetors of Orpheus and adeptus mechanicus have been retconned out of GW lore. This was totally one of the reasons I chose them, but I think I can still make it work. In fact it wasn't necessarily ties with AM that the Praetors had, it was that their "technological lore" was on par with the AM's. I guess I've got some fluff work to do in the future. Your welcome, they really do look great, exactly how I envisioned them from when I did my original "looking for a Primogenitor Dad" research :) Hopefully my musings help. I really was set on these guys as the source of my Chapters geneseed but you know GW :) Silly buggers couldn't quality assure themselves out of a wet paper bag. I hear ya man. Thanks again. Kurgan's got a point though. Thanks for the kind words Marius. It's very disheartening to know of the codex change you mentioned. This was the digital version you were talking about right? For those of you who may have missed it, Marius let me know that the ties between Praetors of Orpheus and adeptus mechanicus have been retconned out of GW lore. Hasn't been retconned out, just not mentioned in the update. Doesn't meant they still don't have strong ties to the AM. Touche. Thanks for making my slight conversions feel valid again! The white is just ceramite white with a wash and highlight. I used sepia and mud washses in small places for the grime. The blue is army painter crystal blue with highlights of citadel ice blue. What kind of wash if I may ask? Believe it or not the wash is actually Army Painter quickshade dark tone, but with a lot of work done afterward. The "highlight" I mentioned before was actually a mix of two things: varying pressures of drybrushing with the new dry white, and several layers of ceramite white and white scar. This is the first time I've given the quickshade a go, and it worked out better than I thought. In the long run though, it took far longer than if I had just used Tamiya smoke or nuln oil with a carefully aimed application into the recesses. There is A LOT of cleaning up to do after quickshading a model, unless you really are just trying to mass produce them. Hope that helps! Thanks again everybody. Land Raider Crusader, Counts-as Sicarius, and TL-lascannon razorback to come soon. -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hey y'all, this is my counts-as Sicarius Captain, made from one of the guys from the Masters of the Cahpter box, and Iron Hands' head, and some kind of plasma pistol from some random marine box (probably assault squad.) I brushed on the matte varnish on this model instead, and am far more pleased with it than with the GW spray. As always, C&C is very welcome. -CH http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain06.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain05.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain04.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Captain01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He looks magnificent, mate :) I love the head! Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 They're all definitely one helluva realistic bunch. The Captain is inspiring. Really cool power weapon and plasma glows, and quite a colorful model that looks finished after the thorough weathering job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The captain looks great. Used the same mini and similar idea for mine, so I would say that :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Very very nice! I remember when I was still trying to decide whether to play as the Iron Hands or the Praetors. The IH won out but the praetors are still very cool to me. I'd check out Gree's short stories over the praetors, its good stuff ;) Ironically I always imagined the praetors as keeping their equipment clean and pristine all the time, and here they are covered in mud lol :D Nice work :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Wanted to stop in after you visited one of my threads. All I can say is the models are beautiful. Well done and in great taste!!! I love the weathering and the gritty feel they emanate. I may have to follow in your footsteps and make my models with a bit of "work" showing on their plates. Again, awesome work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 They're all definitely one helluva realistic bunch. The Captain is inspiring. Really cool power weapon and plasma glows, and quite a colorful model that looks finished after the thorough weathering job. THanks man, I appreciate the compliments! Weathering him was a bit harder, because he has so much more detail than they regualr tac guys, but I'm happy enough with how he turned out. The captain looks great. Used the same mini and similar idea for mine, so I would say that :blink: Thanks. It is a great sculpt, right? The masters of chapter box is probably one of my favorite sets from the entire space marine range, EXCEPT for those god awful heads. In my opinion, they all look great with helmeted heads though. Any pics of your captain floating around here? Very very nice! I remember when I was still trying to decide whether to play as the Iron Hands or the Praetors. The IH won out but the praetors are still very cool to me. I'd check out Gree's short stories over the praetors, its good stuff B) Ironically I always imagined the praetors as keeping their equipment clean and pristine all the time, and here they are covered in mud lol :lol: Nice work :pinch: Thanks. I haven't checked out Gree's stuff yet, but I will will over the weekend. I agree that they're both very cool chapters. For me, it was the color scheme that decided it first, then they just happened to have cool fluff to go along with it. So much the better! Yeah, my Praetors are on extended campaign somewhere...muddy. Wanted to stop in after you visited one of my threads. All I can say is the models are beautiful. Well done and in great taste!!! I love the weathering and the gritty feel they emanate. I may have to follow in your footsteps and make my models with a bit of "work" showing on their plates. Again, awesome work! Cheers man. THanks for stopping by. Incidentally, the color scheme you've chosen for your Tigers lends itself very well to this type of weathering. Thanks again. Anyway, here's the next batch of pics: a Twin-linked lascannon razorback and a rifleman dread. These are probably the weakest pieces in my army. The rifleman dread had several, so the front plate detail was a bit obscured. And the razorback has a broken storm bolter and I forgot to glue the headlights on it. Um...yeah. But it was my first attempt at significant freehand, and am happy with that particular result. Note, these have not been matte varnished yet. Raining outside to can't spray them, and don't ant to use it out of a bottle because then it won't match the predator. Razorback: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback04.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback05.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback06.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/Razorback07.jpg Rifleman Dread: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/RiflemanDread01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/RiflemanDread02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/RiflemanDread03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/RiflemanDread04.jpg As always, C&C is invited. Thanks. -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Your freehand on the Razorback hatches is very good. And even if you have made a few mistakes, the vehicles are very well weathered, which compensates quite a bit, in my opinion (I didn't even notice the missing headlights or the borken storm bolter)! Looking forward to seeing more! Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 Thanks Ludovic. At some point, I'll go back and fix up that razorback. Here is my Land Raider Crusader, also heavily weathered to match the rest of the army. This is the last complete piece that was part of my armies on parade. Although the field at my LGS was very small, this army did win me the armies on parade at the local shop level. Here are the pics: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider04.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider05.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider06.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider07.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/LandRaider08.jpg As always, C&C is much appreciated. Thanks for looking! -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wow. That Land Raider is sweeeeeeeeeeeet :cuss And congrats with the win! Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Wow. That Land Raider is sweeeeeeeeeeeet :D And congrats with the win! Ludovic Thanks man! It wasn't the most crowded field of entrants, but proud nonetheless. I've taken a bit of a break from the Praetors of Orpheus to work on my Celestial Lions but I've managed to get some things built at least (and primed!). Absurdly points heavy Vangaurd Vets: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/VanguardVeteran01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/VanguardVeteran02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/VanguardVeteran03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/VanguardVeteran04.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/VanguardVeteran05.jpg Attack Bike with some extra bits: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/AttackBike01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/AttackBackRear01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/AttackBike0-2.jpg Storm Talon: http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon01.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon02.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon03.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon04.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon05.jpg http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/jcttkd/StormTalon06.jpg That's it for now. Might try to get them painted by the end of the weekend, but no promises. The chapter symbols on the Storm Talon are courtesy of B&C's very own decal resource. The decal paper was quite finicky, but I eventually got it to work, and I figure a decent paintjob will help the decals out too. C&C? Thanks for looking. -CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoDraconumNigrorum Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I really like the 'realistic' in-combat feel you have done, superb! Looking forward to seeing that Stormtalon complete too. - EgoDraconumNigrorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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