Smurfalypse Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Okey, I didn't know that, only been in the hobby since just before 5th was released. Still my point stands, but mayby they will do the same as before and "unlock" them as Troops with the right mark and Abbadon unlocks all due to the fact that he is the "boss", or what do you think? The rumor right now is that a Lord with a mark will unlock the same elites (Mark of Khorne = Berzerkers ect ect). Abby is rumored to make chosen troop choices, so you should still be able to run your mono army if you wish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I guess I'm taking back my words about fiends, they're not that terrible, as I thought. Still won't buy them, though. On the other hand, I'm more excited about remade upgrade kits and old metal jump pack lord than any of new boxes, except, maybe, raptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 most of that stuff looks lame. im usually pretty optimistic but that stuff just looks like GW trying to steal market share from warmachine whats up with the hell chicken. the raptors are great, the warsmith is great and the dark apostle looks good, although im sure all of those flappy pieces will snap off in the first 5 seconds..... ill give the release a 2 out of 5 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 im pretty happy with the new release, bar the prices, but its the way of things. the dark apostle looks great, pre-ordering one with the new dex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWFIST Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I was thinking of getting son 1k sons upgrades but not if I only get two bolters per pack, 3 sets of shoulder pads, and 2 sets of arms. Anyone have extra 1k sons bits?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I'm liking the fiends a bit more. Still not liking the face, which is probably what killed it for me, or the hands/feet, but chaos is about converting anyhow. Ordering the codex now! Um... when is the release date? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Still comes off as a very...muted release, but I'm liking the models more in full view. Looking forward to getting my first full digital Codex, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Got the limited edition Codex to go alongside my limited edition 6th edition rulebook. I am going to feel so stupid when 7th edition comes out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Does anyone know if the new chaos stuff is the only new units we are getting or are there some new stuff which will be released later???? I am also a very sad devotee of Nurgle not a single cool new Nurgle model I mean they could of at least made a plastic Chaos Lord/ sorcerer kit (not terminator) with enough options to have him dedicated to one of the main legions or gods Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalricus Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 There should be a second wave ( Cultists and hellbrutes kind of need a kit too) which is rumoured to be in the november release, if it's not the case, it's quite underwhelming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Does anyone know if the new chaos stuff is the only new units we are getting or are there some new stuff which will be released later???? I am also a very sad devotee of Nurgle not a single cool new Nurgle model I mean they could of at least made a plastic Chaos Lord/ sorcerer kit (not terminator) with enough options to have him dedicated to one of the main legions or gods I'm still hopeful for cultist boxes as an eventual release. I'm not holding my breath, but hopeful. There's probably just as good a chance that they leave that to forgeworld, though. There is going to be a second wave of releases. November, you say? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Hopefully it is otherwise I will be annoyed, also since in the new white dwarf on pg 140 how they say if you take a Nurgle Lord you can take plague marines as troops is it only lords who can take them as troops or can sorcerers take them as well if not I will be sad as I like Sorcerers more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I can't see there not being a second wave, to be honest. They released this wave to firmly establish the new direction Chaos is heading, while the new models that aren't needed as desperately are being saved for the second wave. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 about the possible/rumoured 2nd wave, which should be end october/november (next white dwarf will most likely tell us). Considering they just made a new battleforce, we can basicly rule out new possessed, csm and new bikers. Everything now released in finecast (previously metal) will also not get a new model, like the HQ, havocs and upgrade kits. However, we still need a new Hellbrute (since the old dreadnought just NOT respresent the new lore around it) and cultists, since there just NO models availble outside the starterkit. I think we can also assume, that those 2 are not the only new stuff in 2nd wave, but what else would then be in there, i have no idea. And i think iam one of the few, but i actually like the Forgefiend/mauler kits, but hate the Dark apostle & Sorcerer. The Warpsmith is alright, still feels like a Techmarine with spikes.. The raptors are good, thinking of ways to maybe make additional chosen out of Raptors/possessed/normal csm. Might be a nice little project along the way. THe dragon.. meh.. he has the hugest rectum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Hopefully it is otherwise I will be annoyed, also since in the new white dwarf on pg 140 how they say if you take a Nurgle Lord you can take plague marines as troops is it only lords who can take them as troops or can sorcerers take them as well if not I will be sad as I like Sorcerers more That, sir, is the question that keeps me up at night. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalricus Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The "new" battleforce doesn't strike me as a proof that those units won't be redone, they just couldn't keep the zerkers in it ( one troop, two elites, and the zerkers being very god specific now ) It's much more consistent like this. There are plenty of models deserving a recast ( bikers, termies, basic marines, chosen, zerkers, noise marines) GW has to release some of those units at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 this must be a late april fools joke.... it has to be. $60cdn for the codex $100 for the limited edition. $90 for the hell turkey and $63 for 3 clayface wannabe's. After the release of the necrons and the dark eldar, im feeling shocked at what chaos is getting. Yes chaos is getting some love, but it's the dirty love that makes you ashamed afterwards It feels like the love you rent for a hour or so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I WILL find a way to give the helturkey a jet engine! :P I was thinking, maybe salvage a Storm Talon, take the engines, shave off the guiding fins, and place them as undercarriage? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Has there been any FOC changes besides the whole Cult troops to elites? While I really like the Raptors/Warp Talons, I've gone out of my way to de-horn the majority of my CSMs, and have 16 raptors (2 units of 8) and I'm using the loyalist jump packs and all so they wouldn't fit with the asthetics of my current army. Has there been anything on any new kind of dedicated transport or teleportation/deep strike for normal CSMs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Nope, FOC is mostly the same and there have been no new transports added. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Woo its finally here, although I'm glad I have no money so I don't waste it on the limited edition. Unless its still available when I get paid next week. I'm tempted by the Thousand Son upgrade pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snejk Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I'll buy the dex (and hope for some nice pictures), probably some raptors and give the rest of my money to FW's pre heresy stuff and build a small World Eaters army. And why did they build a turkey? Of all the awesome animals out there they built a turkey!!! Oh well, at least it's some new stuff to loose battles with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Well, my army will be getting a new direction. I just can't resist those Raptors. I might get the Aspiring Chap too, but the rest isn't so great. Not too keen on £18 for the warpsmith, otherwise I'd be getting one. The Thousand Sons pack strikes me as odd, there isn't enough heads to go with the amount of torso conversions, I'd be having to find a further three heads from somewhere. Way to go GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3182999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The Thousand Sons pack strikes me as odd, there isn't enough heads to go with the amount of torso conversions, I'd be having to find a further three heads from somewhere. Way to go GW. It's 31 pieces, which is 8 torso bits, 6 shoulder pads, 2 bolters, 4 arms, sorcerer (main part, backpack, pistol hand) leaving 8 pieces which would be heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3183057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 One big disapointment. The two fiends look a bit better than expected but the rest is, with the exception of the raptors, either deeply mediocre ( sorcerer, champion, doc ock )or downright ugly ( Faildragon, Mutiliators ). Finecast is more expensive than the metal versions ( why exactly? ), miniatures which realy required a facelift got non ( all cult troops, csm, bikers, havocs, the old hq choices ) and the prices are, more often than not, a bad joke (31 euros for the finecast prince? 29 for the heretical armours set? 20 for Typhus? and 52 for the fiends, realy? ). With far superior upgrade and daemon engine kits from Forgeworld, which on top of it are no longer (much) more expensive, and no redesigns of the old kits i seriously have to wonder why i should buy anything from GW's new chaos line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261551-at-last/page/2/#findComment-3183073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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