Loki-LaughingDeath Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Sooo on the 10th there is going to be a local Food Hammer Tournament complete with donations for reroll tokens.... which of course means every body and their anciently deceased relatives will be cheating like it's going outta style....OF COURSE I WILL BE CHEATING!! I already saved up like 60 bucks for canned food!~! Anywho I am at a dilemma in my army building, part of me says build to win, but then I thought build for fun and this is what I came up with.... Logan -Ajrac and 4 Jarl Guard with 2 TDA and an assault cannon with 1 MOW in a Drop Pod Njal and the Sons of th Tempest 10 Grey Hunters kitted out with MOW and Wolf Standard Ulric and 9 Blood Claws with Lukas the Trickster Bjorn the Fell Handed Now I haven't done the math yet but my gut tells me it's right around 1500 which conveniently is the tourney limit and I am thinking it's legal except that Njal and Bjorn both have the Saga of Majesty which is the major sticking point..... Yeah this is a hero hammer beat (CENSORED) stick and then some but it's compact which I like considering there is an Orc Horde list I want to have my way with. Just want an opinion of it's awesomeness... No I don't plan on winning I am just wanting to get pictures of the looks on peoples faces when I deploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 duplicate sagas don't matter on special characters. Should be fun. I enjoy running my low model count SW army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Unfortunately, you're way over-cost: 1500 Pts - Space Wolves Roster Total Roster Cost: 1595 HQ: Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf (1#, 275 pts) 1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf HQ: Njal Stormcaller, Lord of Tempests (1#, 245 pts) 1 Njal Stormcaller, Lord of Tempests HQ: Ulrik the Slayer (1#, 180 pts) 1 Ulrik the Slayer HQ: Bjorn the Fell-Handed (1#, 270 pts) 1 Bjorn the Fell-Handed Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (5#, 335 pts) 1 Wolf Guard in Power Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour + Assault Cannon 1 Marked Wolf Guard in Power Armour 1 Arjac Rockfist, The Anvil of Fenris Troops: Blood Claws Pack (10#, 290 pts) 9 Blood Claws Pack 1 Lukas the Trickster Total points exceed maximum allowed roster size (max 1500). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yeah I did the Math last night and realized that I was over by lots.... forgot to mention a Pack of 10 Grey Hunters weighing in at 185.... Well that looks alot better than what I did.... I think that I am going to have to do the math again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'd personally suggest dropping the blood claws as whilst fluffy your hunters pack a similar punch and then you can use any extra points available to upgrade them :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!! I NEED THE CLAWS FOR LUKAS THE TRICKSTER! This list isn't about winning it's about having fun and the looks on people's faces when they face that much awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 In that case I'd drop the hunters :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Alternatively cut the two TDA Wolf Guard to save exactly 96 pts, leaving you at 1,499... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Alternatively cut the two TDA Wolf Guard to save exactly 96 pts, leaving you at 1,499... Can't do that because then the Assault Cannon becomes illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon950 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Forget Lukas and Bjorn, both are point drains that have a limited ability to make up their points. Only way lukas will do anything is if you manage to get him into base contact something that needs to be killed but you don't want to spend to many points. Bjorn would be more usefull, but I say drop him and you can pick up 2 more dreads or another good squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 I am trying to have some fun and see what kind of mayhem that I can achieve with 6 SPECIAL Characters. This means that I need all 4 HQ slots plus the 2 Unit upgrades.... There will no swapping, trading or other shenanigans. I know that I am looking at having a next to non existent model count and that I can only secure 2 objectives and probably lose horribly....but how awesome is it to field an army that is 14 models strong and maybe just maybe have a chance. Not to mention that there is an Orc horde out there with Logan Grimnar's name all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I am trying to have some fun and see what kind of mayhem that I can achieve with 6 SPECIAL Characters. This means that I need all 4 HQ slots plus the 2 Unit upgrades.... There will no swapping, trading or other shenanigans. I know that I am looking at having a next to non existent model count and that I can only secure 2 objectives and probably lose horribly....but how awesome is it to field an army that is 14 models strong and maybe just maybe have a chance. Not to mention that there is an Orc horde out there with Logan Grimnar's name all over it! Of course, if you're not married to the idea of Bjorn, and want a measure of objective taking ability: 1500 Pts - Space Wolves Roster Total Roster Cost: 1473 Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (5#, 424 pts) 1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour + Thunder Hammer 1 Drop Pod Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (5#, 559 pts) 1 Njal Stormcaller, Lord of Tempests + Runic Terminator Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour 1 Arjac Rockfist, The Anvil of Fenris 1 Drop Pod Troops: Blood Claws Pack (11#, 490 pts) 1 Ulrik the Slayer 8 Blood Claws Pack 1 Lukas the Trickster 1 Drop Pod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Alternatively cut the two TDA Wolf Guard to save exactly 96 pts, leaving you at 1,499... Can't do that because then the Assault Cannon becomes illegal. What kind of TDA Wolf Guard costs 96 pts for two without an Assault Cannon, hmm? ^_^ Removing them leaves him with 3 PA + Arjac, totally legal. Loki--I say roll your original list minus those Terminators. I would love to hear how the 6-hero list works out. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Well I did some more math today and if I drop the TDA and Cannon I can pack in 8 Blood Claws and 2 Combi Plasma..... ooooor I can make a Lone Wolf..... Or If I really wanna get crazy with the cheesewhiz I can make my own characters and shave off some points for some more troops but loose out on some of the crazy perks from the Special Characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 The 10th has come and gone and I ended up with a 2-1 record and ONE HELL OF A GOOD TIME!! The list was interesting and surprisingly hard hitting and my turns were some of the fastest. I am just going to hit the highlights really quickly. Round 1 was a Pedro Cantor list that featured more broken up tactical squads than I want to think about with Pedro Cantor off in a corner calling in Orbital Bombardments, a thunderfire cannon and a Landraider. Highlights were Bjorn and Arjac ripping up a Dreadnaught each in Close Combat, Logan and company shooting a 1/2 squad down and Bjorn eating a tactical squad that made the mistake of letting him get too close. Low points, Lukas Ulric and the claws sitting it out on an objective. I was playing a younger player and he didn't know how to react to such a small list. Round 2. Ahh Brandon our local slanneshi cultist. He broke out a list that made me worried because he took my advice after last time and buffed out most of his units which meant 30 cultists... 9 Noise Marines and a Squad of Chaos Marines with the Lord with a Black Mace in a Rhino and a Demon Prince and a Hellbrute with Reaper and scourge and a Freaking Helldrake. Highlights were Bjorn Bjorn and Bjorn. First off he plastered the Rhino so Lord and company had to walk, then he got charged by the demon prince and after losing a hull point he made all his saves and proceeded to once again send another demon prince back to his god to explain why he failed, then worked the hell brute down to it's last hull point, before finally getting worked over. Lukas surprised everbody by gutting the Chaos Lord after Ulric and the other Claws went to go get an ale, Routed the Remaining Marines and tag teamed them with Logan and company after they went through the Cultists and CULT Marines. At the end of the Game all that was left was Logan with all his wounds, the Hellbrute with 1 Hullpoint and the Helldrake. Round 3 This one hurt because it was against a Bug Swarm with 2 Massive units of 30 Gaunts 12 Gene Stealers, 5 Raveners 3 Zoanthropes 2 Twin Linked Devourer Carnivores and Flying HiveTyrant. This was a special mission with the fantasy mystery deployment. I really should have done something different because I got wiped out on turn 4. Wasn't really a fun game when you play rules liars(Lawyers). I bagged one of the Guant Units, couple of stealers, half the other gaunt unit and one of the Raveners. He played run away and shoot, untill the Carnivores and Tyrant all swarmed Bjorn and cracked him. The Fexes blew the claws and characters away in 1 round of shooting. Just not a fun Game at all. Funny enough it was supposed to be a Fun list Tournament, odd how many people were there with some seriously competitive lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev55555 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Interesting time you had there Loki, Hmmm quick question for anybody ...... What would be the highest points - lowest model count army rosta that we could field on the table ? ( hope iam not hijacking your thread, was just wondering ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Interesting time you had there Loki,Hmmm quick question for anybody ...... What would be the highest points - lowest model count army rosta that we could field on the table ? ( hope iam not hijacking your thread, was just wondering ) Not saying it's 100% the most competitive build, but 2,165pts in 19 models: Total Roster Cost: 2165 HQ: Bjorn the Fell-Handed (1#, 270 pts) 1 Bjorn the Fell-Handed Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (8#, 1175 pts) 1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf 1 Njal Stormcaller, Lord of Tempests 1 Wolf Guard in Power Armour + Frost Blade 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour + Combi-Meltagun + Power Fist 1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour + Assault Cannon + Chain Fist 1 Arjac Rockfist, The Anvil of Fenris 1 Land Raider Troops: Blood Claws Pack (10#, 720 pts) 1 Ulrik the Slayer 1 Marked Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Power Armor + Plasma Pistol x2 6 Blood Claws Pack + Meltagun 1 Blood Claw w/ Power Fist 1 Lukas the Trickster 1 Land Raider Composition Report: HQ: 2 (1 - 2) Elite: 0 (0 - 3) Troops: 2 (2 - 6) Fast: 0 (0 - 3) Heavy: 1 (0 - 3) Fort: 0 (0 - 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy12009 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you're planning on playing an Ork list, and that list uses deff roller battle wagons, keep Lukas. Ya, he kinda sux but wrap your unit around the wagon and dare him to roll over you. When you call death or glory his wagon will be caught in Lukas' trap and be removed too. It may not happen but the look on your opponent's face is priceless when it works :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortifis Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Interesting time you had there Loki,Hmmm quick question for anybody ...... What would be the highest points - lowest model count army rosta that we could field on the table ? ( hope iam not hijacking your thread, was just wondering ) Not saying it's 100% the most competitive build, but 2,165pts in 19 models I believe I can better that :D (albeit with slightly fewer special characters). Just under 4k with only 20 models! (Not counting Fenrisian or Cyber Wolves as models, because they are wargear. Also assuming that Iron Priests are exempt from the Leaders of the Pack special rule, because they are not Independent Characters) 275 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf 335 Wolf Lord, Frost Blade, Storm Shield, Runic Armour, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Warrior Born, all the trimmings 315 Wolf Lord, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Runic Armour, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of Majesty, all the trimmings (except wolf tail) 335 Wolf Lord, 2x Thunder Hammer, Runic Armour, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Bear, all the trimmings (except meltabombs) 185 Iron Priest, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Iron Wolf, Wolftooth Necklace, Wolf Tail Talisman, 4x Cyberwolves 185 Iron Priest, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Iron Wolf, Wolftooth Necklace, Wolf Tail Talisman, 4x Cyberwolves 185 Iron Priest, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Iron Wolf, Wolftooth Necklace, Wolf Tail Talisman, 4x Cyberwolves 339 Wolf Guard Pack (3) Arjack Rockfist Wolf Guard Terminator with Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield and Meltabombs, Mark of the Wulfen Wolf Guard Terminator with Chainfist, Storm Shield and Meltabombs 295 Land Raider Crusader, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer, Multi-Melta, Extra Armour 219 Wolf Guard Pack (3) Wolf Guard Terminator with Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield and Meltabombs, Mark of the Wulfen Wolf Guard Terminator with Chainfist, Storm Shield and Meltabombs Wolf Guard Terminator with Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield and Meltabombs 295 Land Raider Redeemer, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer, Multi-Melta, Extra Armour 120 Thunderwolf Cavalry (1) Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Meltabombs, Mark of the Wulfen 120 Thunderwolf Cavalry (1) Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Meltabombs, Mark of the Wulfen 120 Thunderwolf Cavalry (1) Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Meltabombs, Mark of the Wulfen 295 Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer, Multi-Melta, Extra Armour 295 Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer, Multi-Melta, Extra Armour 3913 7 Infantry 9 Cavalry (+18 Puppies) 4 Tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yeah, well anyone can throw useless, expensive upgrades on models - but the theme of this thread is "hero-hammer", ie : as many named heroes as can be fit in a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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