Khaines wrath Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ok so I'm battling a tyranid player who has a big army I swear its over points and decided I'm not gonna sook about it I'm just going to battle him So please tell me: What to do What o avoid What war gear What stuff to give them Ok I'm buying( haven't bought them yet because If someone tells me gk suck or they will be screwed then I will buy another army) Kaldor 2x terminator Librarian Apothecary Rhino Gk squad Dreadknight He's got Hive tyrant Deathleaper 2x lictors Ymargl genestealers 2x genestealers 2x gargoyles 2x hormagaunt 3x biovore 2x spore mine Doom of malan'tai Ok so he may be over points but I'm not a wringer so just tell me what to do etc. I'm not an inexperienced player so don't bother telling me they're too hard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 notsureifserious.jpg In most cases, GK will table Tyranids. Tyranids are overpriced and GK are underpriced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3238730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 ^^ This. If you think hes over points, why not check the book and his maths? Unless hes a total douchecanoe there shouldn't be a problem. If there is, why play him at all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3238744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If you are looking to tailor your list to his then (working with your list) Draigo should be able to mulch the Tyrant by himself. As far as wargear goes, looking at his list, it's a horde of high initiative but weak units. For this, Halberds and Falchions are your friends, as are Incinerators. His list is one of the few that a Gatling Psilencer and a Heavy Incinerator on the Dreadknight would be arguably the best combo. If you want an apothecary, you'll have to have a unit of Paladins (which is fine, as Draigo makes them troops) You will be outnumbered but if you kill his tyrant then he loses synapse for the whole army and most of his units (bar the genestealers) have low Ld meaning you can scare him off the table. Plus no nerfing for your psychic powers either. So the tyrant should be priority 1 for you to kill. The librarian would probably be best used in a support role, hammerhand, might of titan and quicksilver with mastery level 3 so he can use all three every turn will buff him and his whole unit (initiative 10, strength +2 (including the units hammerhand, the librarian will get +3 as will use might of titan as well) combined with falchions for +1 attack will make for a horrifically destructive unit) Hope this helps, Laterz... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3238778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Yeah, his list is actually not as bad as it could be... Kill the big bugs first. Have flamer-EQs in your units in case the small bugs charge you for overwatch. Back away from doom, shoot it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3238868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Grey Knights against Nids is brutal. To have a chance Nids need cover, which got worst. All you have to do is hose them down with psycannons. Now with his list, it's OK, apart from one big flaw, he has one synapse creature. And you'll be able to kill it quickly. Then he loses control of basically his entire force. Some units may get a little better in combat, but if you break them they'll likely be gone for the game. Plus, he has no Hive Guard, so just sit in transports and you'll be fine. I wouldn't be worried about points, he's sitting on 1220pts with no upgrades or extra squad members, if it's 1750-2000pts (which I'm guessing it is, you haven't specified the points limit despite saying you think he's over) then he should be fine. What I would be worried about though is the fact that he has at least four Elite choices, and depending on how he does things, he could have four Fast Attack. At 2000pts, he'll need at least another HQ to allow that, so I'd query him on that. There's a reason why there's a Force Org chart and points limit, to promote fair games. It's not whining to expect your opponent to conform to those restrictions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3239204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 notsureifserious.jpgIn most cases, GK will table Tyranids. Tyranids are overpriced and GK are underpriced. Yea I know... And you call your self experienced yet you will sell GK if someone says they suck... They are 2nd best codex in the game, behind necrons. Ive watched Draigo kill 1k points of nids on his own (in 5th ed, so fearless wounds were wiping whole squads) and the fact they all have power weapons. But lets assume you are serious. What point value are you playing at? And look at his army list, cause looking at what you listed, unless those numbers are max squad sizes then his list should be legal, most of his models are 4-6 points per guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3239257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 But lets assume you are serious. What point value are you playing at? And look at his army list, cause looking at what you listed, unless those numbers are max squad sizes then his list should be legal, most of his models are 4-6 points per guy. Legal except for the 4 Elites, and don't day double force org, because he only has one HQ. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3239277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 But lets assume you are serious. What point value are you playing at? And look at his army list, cause looking at what you listed, unless those numbers are max squad sizes then his list should be legal, most of his models are 4-6 points per guy. Legal except for the 4 Elites, and don't day double force org, because he only has one HQ. :) Wasnt looking to close, just eyeballing the models lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3239321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well... I'm pretty sure I went over this match-up pretty thoroughly, and not in the Nids' favor. It should be the tyranid guy rolling around forums looking for advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265872-please-help/#findComment-3239516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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