Emperor's Furor Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Just spit balling, wanted a themed list which comprised of mainly foot slogging infantry and dreadnoughts as the book describes them. The idea is to get night fighting on the warlord roll to help. Praetor - Archaeotech Pistol / Master Crafted Paragon Blade / Melta Bombs / Digital Laser / Iron Halo - 205 Primus Medicae - Cataphractii Armour - 85 Apothecaries (3) - Augury Scanner / Artificer Armour - 180 Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Melta guns - 175 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Flamers - 100 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Flamers - 100 Legion Dreadnought Talon (3) - Dreadnought CCW / Missile Launcher / (2) Hunter Killer Missiles / Extra Armour - 495 Legion Terminator Squad (10) - (2) Reaper Auto Cannon / Cataphractii Armour- 355 Legion Vindicator (3) - Dozer Blade / Extra Armour - 405 Total - 3000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Seems like a pricey HQ, but then I saw it is 3000 points, so that's perfect. Boy, Legion lists really are a lot more fun at 2500+ I wonder if it might be better to make the support squad 10 in size. Also, lacks a fast element, but fits with what you want to do. Can the normal dreads take the conversion Beamer? Might be good to start with long range shooting while the troops slog. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3251961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Unfortunately they can't :S I've had to alter it a little cause I got things wrong and found out vindicators ain't quite right at this period. HQ Praetor - Archaeotech Pistol / Master Crafted Paragon Blade / Melta Bombs / Digital Laser / Iron Halo - 205 Elites Apothecaries (3) - Augury Scanner / Artificer Armour - 180 Legion Dreadnought Talon (3) - Dreadnought CCW / Autocannon / Extra Armour - 420 Legion Terminator Squad (10) - (2) Reaper Auto Cannon / Cataphractii Armour- 355 Troops Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Squad (20) - Additional CW / Legion Vexilla - 300 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Melta guns - 160 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Flamers - 100 Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) - Flamers - 100 Heavy Support Legion Fellblade Super Heavy Tank - Space Marine Legion Crew / Armoured Ceramite / Twin-linked Heavy Flamer / Pintle Mounted Heavy Flamer - 580 Total - 3000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 You could save a bunch of points by converting one Tac squad into BP/CCW instead of Bolters with Additional CCW and make them your assault unit, make one Bolters only and them bulk up your Support Squads. I like the Fellblade though! That would be cool to see a mass of foot guys walking up behind that big tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah, I know it's a bit expensive but I liked the idea that the Dusk Raiders and Death Guard both relied on the common troop being able to adapt to all situations, so I thought it might be pretty fluffy. Also I like the surpressive fire of 60 bolters firing at 24", also when they get to 12" and fire twice, can they then do a fury of the legion roll and fire another 2 shots, so that's 4 shots per model? That could be 240 shots with three units of 20 lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I was sucked in by the siren song of the Legion rule, but the main problem I've found is you can't use it if you move. In most cases you're better off firing pistols and then assaulting than shooting Fury of the Legion because of the limited threat range. Still, it would work well if you use them together: one shoots Legion, the other assaults with extra CCWs. But since you're Death Guard you should look at Crysos Morturg (probably spelled wrong). He can give one unit Relentless (via Endurance) so you could double-fire bolters and then charge--- that's an excellent use of extra CCW. He also gives Infiltrate and Stubborn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah I was considering him, if I drop the fellblade and replace it with a Malcador I think I might be able to make room for him. The Malcador is a fast vehicle to so it can keep up with the infantry and keep on firing it's primary weapon. I may cheaper my praetor as well, but I dunno what to trim him down to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 If you keep the Fellblade I would swap out the pintle heavy flamer. You wont be hitting anything apart from the fellbalde itself! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3252945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I may cheaper my praetor as well, but I dunno what to trim him down to. Maybe cut him down to a Consul? I like the Chaplain, since he'll make one of your squads Fearless. Morturg+Chaplain+20 squad with extra CCW is a potent combo. Or take a vanilla Consul with just Wargear. They're so wicked cheap, you could get two for less than the cost of the Praetor. I say only keep the Praetor if you are using one of the Rites. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267001-dusk-raiders-crusade-list/#findComment-3253409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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