Emperor's Furor Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I have an old Rogue Trader chaplain model that I really like, but I'm not sure if it would fit in with a crusade era force, rather than a heresy era force, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Picies? We cant brainstorm without a pic :yuck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Many of those old models fit in great with the FW Legion models. Although fluff-wise, I'm not sure how many Chaplains were active in the Crusade era. I think much more prevalent in the Heresy era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 This is the model I have http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Citadel-Rogue-Trade...#33;~~60_12.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Angel Scout Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Would work perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Firstly: jealous! That's a lovely old chaplain! Secondly: I'd say it would be perfect. And I demand photos of him when he's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yeah he'll fit. The Chappie was there to look after the well being of the legion's spirit, and later to keep psykers in check. Also some legions used them a lot during the crusade, like the Word Bearers, so depending on legion there'd be no issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I thought all the chaplains in the Great Crusade era were from the Word Bearers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Would work perfectly +1 Give him a good paint job and he will be a great match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Were they around though during the crusade prior to Lorgar turning up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Were they around though during the crusade prior to Lorgar turning up? I remember a chaplain edict been discussed by the Luna wolves and the chaplain corps been inducted just prior to the heresy. They also existed at least during the Istaavan massacre, because fluff states that they were the first to be murdered by the traitor legions due to the fact that they would not join them. Only the word bearers chaplains turned hence their accursed crozii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 From 40k.wikia: The position of Chaplain was created during the Great Crusade of the 31st Millennium by the edicts of the Council of Nikaea -- an Imperial conclave that was called on the world of Nikaea to determine whether or not the use of psychic powers represented a boon or a grave danger to Mankind and the newborn Imperium of Man. The new position of Chaplain was instituted by the council to ensure that the Emperor's edicts as well as the Imperial Truth were upheld amongst the Astartes of the Space Marine Legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 So only Word Bearers would have chaplains about before Nikaea :s Shame I really like the model but there's something mentally stopping me from doing Word Bearers heh. Hopefully this may change with the next book, maybe the Imperial Heralds had some version of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Didn't Blood Angels have a form of Chaplain? I seem to recall there was a position like it within Fear to tread, although I'm probably wrong. Edit: Just found it, they were called Wardens, like High Warden Dahka Berus and Warden Yason Annellus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Fear to tread was after the edict of nikea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broker Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I recall there was a Chaplain Charmosian in Fulgrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yeah but Warden's were around before the edict of Nikaea due to the flaw in the geneseed. This is what Lexicanum has to say on the subject. "Warden was a rank within the Blood Angels Space Marine Legion during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy. Existing outside the command structure, the post of Warden was a rare one within the IX Legion, given to senior Veterans. In essence, they served as the watchmen of the Blood Angels, serving as mentors and guides for the younger members of the Blood Angels, but also charged with upholding the laws of the IX Legion. This definition was open to interpretation, where they could offer a Captain a piece of advice on tactical doctrine to leading a ceremony of rememberance for fallen Space Marines.[1a] Following the Council of Nikaea, the Wardens were charged with upholding the Edict of Nikaea banning Librarians.[1b]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 So blood angels for you then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex567 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Horus often used units from other legions that he saw were tactical assests on the battle field, if you want to stick to the fluff then it is perfectly acceptable for any primarch to adopt this point of view, and indoctrinate the word bearer "chaplain" idea into their legion, I imagine Horus would have seen the chaplain and considered it's battlefield affects and moral boosts, he could have passed this information onto another primarch or used it himself, acting as either advisors, support veterans or as leaders to a detachment, to me use of a chaplain is perfectly acceptable and would fit in most legions, with some exeptions such as Thousand sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 So blood angels for you then? Not quite, I have a habit of rushing my decisions but I'm learning pace myself and consider it a lot more, right now I'm trying to figure out what legions the model could be viable for. I really want an "early" crusade based legion to, I find stuff like former legion names, like the Dusk Raiders, War Hounds and Imperial Heralds, to be quite appealing, I really like the early details that Betrayal has began to disclose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Are there any other possibilities? This is the model as it is atm, I've ordered a Mk II backpack but I'm considering whether I should get a jump pack as well just in case. http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3558/dsci005611.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dark Angels had Brother Redemptors... Just want to point out that a lot of people frequently consider RT era as pre-Heresy but it was 40k through and through... EDIT: don't get me wrong, the model will do admirably... (but not because it's supposed to be 30k - it's still supposed to be 40k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah, I understand about Rogue Trader being considered earlier than 40k but it's not, this model though has no chest Aquila and looks like like Mk II or III armour with all the trim and rivets on it. Atm I get the feeling it's best suited for a chaplain of the word bearers during the crusade but after Lorgar was found (due to the book on it's waste which seems suitable to be the early Lectitio Divinitatus?) and prior to the seeds of heresy even being a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Heh, chances are Forgeworld's going to release this very model again, with some small alterations and in resin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah, well I might just wait till the next FW book comes out to see what's written about the Word Bearers and their history, if it piques my interest I may go with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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